Haas Desktop Mill

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This looks like fun

[Matthew Hajicek]

I inquired about it, and was told it's an overpriced and under-capable hobby machine designed to sell to schools.  You wouldn't want to try making any real parts on it, but it can be used to teach the Haas control and basics of machining to noobs.

[pmartin]

[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=1551 time=1609541460 user_id=57]

 You wouldn't want to try making any real parts on it
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So it's like all the other Haas Mills.








BTW we own a number of Haas Mills, one thing that they do make is money.

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[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=1551 time=1609541460 user_id=57]

 You wouldn't want to try making any real parts on it

So it's like all the other Haas Mills.








BTW we own a number of Haas Mills, one thing that they do make is money.
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Yes.. I learned to program on Haas machines, owned 2 of them and made a ton of money with them.
They are not of comparable capability or quality to top tier machines but their affordability and availability  
made CNC machining possible for hundreds of shops.
When I bought my first VF1, I could never have afforded a Japanese machine.
Most of the shops I've worked for or programmed for, started with Haas machines

[Matthew Hajicek]

Haas machines have improved significantly over the past decade.  Our 2015 VF-3SS has done everything that I've asked of it short of precision simultaneous 5 axis.

[gcode]

Haas has some really innovative machines these days as well

https://www.haascnc.com/machines/vertical-mills/universal-machine/models/umc-1500-duo.html">https://www.haascnc.com/machines/vertic ... 0-duo.html">https://www.haascnc.com/machines/vertical-mills/universal-machine/models/umc-1500-duo.html

[Jim at Gentex]

We were looking at one of those UMC-750 5-axis machines.
Priced at around $160K, it's not a bad little machine for the money, and would accommodate most of our 5-axis production parts.

Not sure if management is going forward with it, but it would be nice...

[Matthew Hajicek]

Just don't get an early one, I heard they had some problems.  Anything after the refresh should be fine though, as long as you don't require extreme precision in full five.

[CNCAppsJames]

I know a LOT of "real" parts machined on Haas machines. You have to know what it is, and what it isn't. You have to cut within the machine's scope.

If I weren't so much of a FANUC honk, I wouldn't hesitate to put one in my garage. I'll probably have a Robodrill and some sort of lathe in a few years in my garage because I like making stuff.

[joshc]

Look at the travel on that machine

TRAVELS   S.A.E   METRIC
X Axis   6.0 in   152 mm
Y Axis   10.0 in   254 mm
Z Axis   3.0 in   76 mm
Spindle Nose to Table (~ max)   3.0 in   76 mm

that machines offers 3" in Z travel...... my thought when i first seen that was why did they even make that machine? about all i can imagine its good for would be a student looking to learn haas controllers, not really good for anything else with the price tag and travel limits in my opinion.

Edit:
then again after looking at the haas website the next machine up from that is the TM1 for 30k so i guess you could get almost 4 of those desktop mills for the price of a single full size haas machine so in an educational environment you could teach 4x the amount of students so i guess it makes sense and you could still teach basic machining concepts with that amount of travel and that machine and then the students could still cut something instead of just running a Simulator or something.

[byte]

Ya, I think it is mainly to learn, I'm still happy with the pocketnc if you compare the proce taG, it's a better buy

[CNCAppsJames]

Look at the travel on that machine

TRAVELS   S.A.E   METRIC
X Axis   6.0 in   152 mm
Y Axis   10.0 in   254 mm
Z Axis   3.0 in   76 mm
Spindle Nose to Table (~ max)   3.0 in   76 mm

that machines offers 3" in Z travel...... my thought when i first seen that was why did they even make that machine? about all i can imagine its good for would be a student looking to learn haas controllers, not really good for anything else with the price tag and travel limits in my opinion.

Edit:
then again after looking at the haas website the next machine up from that is the TM1 for 30k so i guess you could get almost 4 of those desktop mills for the price of a single full size haas machine so in an educational environment you could teach 4x the amount of students so i guess it makes sense and you could still teach basic machining concepts with that amount of travel and that machine and then the students could still cut something instead of just running a Simulator or something.

For probably a 5 year stretch, every single part I made would fit in that envelope, and come t think of it, Every part would probably have fit in the palm of my closed hand. It all depends on what ya do.  

[RobertELee]

Look at the travel on that machine

TRAVELS   S.A.E   METRIC
X Axis   6.0 in   152 mm
Y Axis   10.0 in   254 mm
Z Axis   3.0 in   76 mm
Spindle Nose to Table (~ max)   3.0 in   76 mm

that machines offers 3" in Z travel...... my thought when i first seen that was why did they even make that machine? about all i can imagine its good for would be a student looking to learn haas controllers, not really good for anything else with the price tag and travel limits in my opinion.

Edit:
then again after looking at the haas website the next machine up from that is the TM1 for 30k so i guess you could get almost 4 of those desktop mills for the price of a single full size haas machine so in an educational environment you could teach 4x the amount of students so i guess it makes sense and you could still teach basic machining concepts with that amount of travel and that machine and then the students could still cut something instead of just running a Simulator or something.

For probably a 5 year stretch, every single part I made would fit in that envelope, and come t think of it, Every part would probably have fit in the palm of my closed hand. It all depends on what ya do.  

And for about 5 years [size=50]almost[/size] every single tool I used wouldn't even fit in the spindle of that thing.  

[CNCAppsJames]

Look at the travel on that machine

TRAVELS   S.A.E   METRIC
X Axis   6.0 in   152 mm
Y Axis   10.0 in   254 mm
Z Axis   3.0 in   76 mm
Spindle Nose to Table (~ max)   3.0 in   76 mm

that machines offers 3" in Z travel...... my thought when i first seen that was why did they even make that machine? about all i can imagine its good for would be a student looking to learn haas controllers, not really good for anything else with the price tag and travel limits in my opinion.

Edit:
then again after looking at the haas website the next machine up from that is the TM1 for 30k so i guess you could get almost 4 of those desktop mills for the price of a single full size haas machine so in an educational environment you could teach 4x the amount of students so i guess it makes sense and you could still teach basic machining concepts with that amount of travel and that machine and then the students could still cut something instead of just running a Simulator or something.

For probably a 5 year stretch, every single part I made would fit in that envelope, and come t think of it, Every part would probably have fit in the palm of my closed hand. It all depends on what ya do.  

And for about 5 years