The Science was settled

[gcode]

March 21, 1971  - Ice Age Coming?

NOAA: Since World War II our winters have been growing colder

Scientist claiming 85% Accuracy for his predictions says: . . "Europe will be covered with the glaciers of a new ice age" by the year 2000

And: No warming trend before the year 2015

A New Ice Age

I remember my classmates having mental meltdowns over this when I was in college in '73 thru '75
I thought they were freakin' idiots then.. and I still do

[beej]

I've never heard an environmentalist give me their opinion about lithium mining and it's effect on the environment. there is lithium in California. and also in the Black Hills and on some indian reservations. I wonder if they think that we should start strip mining those places to retrieve it, to make batteries for environmentally friendly cars,so that we can get rid of these pipelines once and for all.

[CNCAppsJames]

I've never heard an environmentalist give me their opinion about lithium mining and it's effect on the environment.

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That would be ENTIRELY too inconvenient of a truth for them.

[gcode]

I've never heard an environmentalist give me their opinion about lithium mining and it's effect on the environment. there is lithium in California. and also in the Black Hills and on some indian reservations. I wonder if they think that we should start strip mining those places to retrieve it, to make batteries for environmentally friendly cars,so that we can get rid of these pipelines once and for all.

and I fail to understand why it's OK to burn Russian Venezuelan and Saudi oil, but Canadian and US oil is not OK
It's like the Biden Admin wants to enrich out enemies

[beej]

and I fail to understand why it's OK to burn Russian Venezuelan and Saudi oil, but Canadian and US oil is not OK
It's like the Biden Admin wants to enrich out enemies

it makes sense to me. He doesn't want oil production in the US, because people in those trades will not vote for a democrat. He has to get to the point where he can blame high oil prices on OPEC rather than on domestic policies. And they actually want high oil prices to increase demand in renewable energy.He is counting on our memories being short enough that we forget that he is the one who is causing the high oil prices.

[Jeff]

I've never heard an environmentalist give me their opinion about lithium mining and it's effect on the environment. there is lithium in California. and also in the Black Hills and on some indian reservations. I wonder if they think that we should start strip mining those places to retrieve it, to make batteries for environmentally friendly cars,so that we can get rid of these pipelines once and for all.

97% of the world's Lithium is refined in China.
THIS is the reason for the push for electric vehicles and such.
It's all to make China more money, period.

Remember back when I said that China was too smart to start a war with us and will conquer us from within? It's been happening for a while now but a lot of people are too stupid to see it or acknowledge it.

[beej]

Where lithium comes from:
https://insideevs.com/news/372133/91-of-lithium-three-countries/

Sep 23, 2019 at 4:28am ET
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By: Mark Kane

Lithium is - as the name indicates - the key element of all lithium-ion batteries. As it turns out, this lightest metal is sourced in volume from just a few countries.

According to the U.S. DOE's Office of Energy Efficiency & Renewable Energy, some 91% of all lithium comes from Australia (44%), Chile (34%), and Argentina (13%) - data for the year 2017.

The Lithium element itself is one of the most abundant globally, but the viability of extraction makes a few markets especially favorable. If anything happens, the world can switch to lithium from other countries after investing in new facilities, which gives us peace of mind about the future. In the future, also recycling will become an important source of lithium.

Cobalt, another key cathode material - at least in 2017 - was sourced at 59% from the Congo, although it could've change by now as many companies were not happy about the environmental and humanitarian aspects of local mines.

[pmartin]

It's amazing. You would think that technology is incapable of solving any problems to listen to you guys. How about zinc-ion batteries? How about hyper deep drilling to use geo-thermal for our electicity needs?

[Del.]

I never hear them explain where they will dispose hundreds of millions of batteries either or the size of charging stations all over the country that will look like a Disney world parking lot.

I heard that one hour of charging using 110 volts gives you 30-40 miles of driving.

Going to be electrical substations everywhere to meet the needs.

[beej]

It's amazing. You would think that technology is incapable of solving any problems to listen to you guys. How about zinc-ion batteries? How about hyper deep drilling to use geo-thermal for our electicity needs?

not saying that technology can't make things better, but when it comes to energy you always exchange one problem for another. But activists never seem to think about the other problems they create by ridding us of their soup de jour.

[gcode]

But activists never seem to think

climate change is a religion, not a science, rational thinking is not permitted.

[pmartin]

climate change is a religion, not a science, rational thinking is not permitted.

Leaving that statement alone for the moment here is a question for you. Do you reject that mankind has any significantly measurable negative impacts on the world?

[gcode]

Leaving that statement alone for the moment here is a question for you. Do you reject that mankind has any significantly measurable negative impacts on the world?

of course not
you only have to look 30 years of satellite images of the Brazilian rainforest to see that.

I do reject the data used to "settle the science" of man made global warming. I believe it has been manipulated and distorted to prove the case.
When I was in college in the early 70's we were presented with 'settled science" proving peak oil, global cooling and
mass starvation due to over population.
If that data had been true, the beleaguered survivors of the human race would be staving in the dark by now.

The bottom line is that the  charlatans producing this "settled science" are producing whatever is required to keep the grant money flowing,

[DUM1]

A New Ice Age

I remember my classmates having mental meltdowns over this when I was in college in '73 thru '75
I thought they were freakin' idiots then.. and I still do

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/426353-ocasio-cortez-the-world-will-end-in-12-years-if-we-dont-address


TheHill.com
Ocasio-Cortez: 'World will end in 12 years' if climate change not addressed

PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUY THIS CRAP


Like fuck face FAUCI SAYING HE IS SCIENCE ! .... REALLY ?

[pmartin]

Well G, happily science is not a static thing. The accumulated knowledge of humanity is greater today than it was in the 70's. You may choose what to believe but the truth is the truth and time will generally weed out the BS.

As to your point of interested parties distorting the record for their own ends that is certainly plausible. Once money is put on the table people generally want to get their hands on it and don't want to ever let go.

But that goes both ways. Big oil wants the cash to flow their way for eternity just the same way that Big tobacco wanted people to keep buying cigarettes forever. Wind farms don't want you to think about the negative aspects of wind and what about hare-brained ideas like carbon credits, somebody always has money in the game.