New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen

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neurosis

Quote from: Matthew Hajicek on June 24, 2022, 01:29 PMno good role models to follow

It's amazing to me at how little consideration is put on the importance of role models in your life. They can build you up, or bring you down. 
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Matthew Hajicek

Quote from: beej on June 24, 2022, 11:56 AMat that point a lot of the people, will be working in greenhouses on Mars.

It's coming sooner than you think.  And those greenhouses on Mars will be largely automated too, when we finally get there.

neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on June 24, 2022, 01:31 PMLOL, I have single handedly gotten R's and D's, Lib's and Conservatives, Christians and atheists, etc. to all join together against me by simple telling them the truth about food/nutrition.

Some of the conversations that Ive seen you get in to on here and EMC had to make me laugh a little.  Some of the changes in your thought process over the years, I thought was awesome.  I've seen some pretty negative reactions to it. :lol: 


The food thing, That's a tough sell for some people.  I'm not sure why people get so defensive about that stuff. Maybe they don't like to hear that their diet, which is their own personal decision, affects their own health.  Nobody want's to hear that they are irresponsible?  :D  Still though, it's fun to give you a little shit here and there. 
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YoDoug

Quote from: Matthew Hajicek on June 24, 2022, 01:19 PMIs there still upward mobility in the US?  Sure, but not nearly as much as there used to be.  Anyone talking on a machining forum about how they made it is selection bias.  Those that didn't make it aren't here to talk about it, they're slaving away in an Amazon warehouse or on the street.  The truth is there's less upward mobility now than ever before.  CEO pay skyrockets while worker pay is flat, actually shrinking if you account for inflation; the rich are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer.  That's the ancap paradise, but it's not sustainable or stable.  Eventually the poor get desperate and angry enough to revolt.



https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/social-mobility-upwards-decline-usa-us-america-economics/

https://files.epi.org/charts/img/8755.png

https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-has-grown-90-times-faster-than-typical-worker-pay-since-1978/


The saddest part about the income gap in this country is the brainwashed middle class. The elite have brainwashed the middle class, both R and D, into believing that it's the other side that is destroying the middle class. It's greed that is destroying the middle class and rich people only care about red vs blue by how it helps them get more green. They are brainwashed to believe the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality and the poor are poor because they don't want to work hard. They defend the ultra rich CEOs and others while at the very same time those CEOs couldn't careless about the middle class if it means more wealth for them.
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mkd

Quote from: YoDoug on June 24, 2022, 01:31 PMLOL, I have single handedly gotten R's and D's, Lib's and Conservatives, Christians and atheists, etc. to all join together against me by simple telling them the truth about food/nutrition.
I mostly admire you for your soy powered man boobs😍😍
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Matthew Hajicek

Quote from: neurosis on June 24, 2022, 01:33 PMIt's amazing to me at how little consideration is put on the importance of role models in your life. They can build you up, or bring you down. 


Indeed.  And career guidance.  When I was 16 and doing poorly in high school because it was so boring and I couldn't see any use for what I was being taught, my dad suggested casually over dinner that maybe I should pursue being a machinist.  I was like "What's that?"  I already knew how to make simple parts on a lathe, but I had no idea that machining could be a career path until that moment.  The schools certainly never mentioned the possibility; the career guidance I got from school was worthless, and that was in an upper-middle-class district.  They basically said "Your options are doctor, engineer, computer programmer, military, or destitute wage slave.  So get good grades and go to college!"  I can only imagine what career guidance in lesser districts is like.

mkd

Quote from: neurosis on June 24, 2022, 01:13 PMTo frame it a little differently, Some people have to work a LOT harder to even get in to a position that upward mobility is possible for them. And yea, I know.  That isn't a very popular opinion.  :D
Popular or not, stupid is what stupid does. Some things can't be helped or changd.

neurosis

Quote from: Matthew Hajicek on June 24, 2022, 01:41 PMI can only imagine what career guidance in lesser districts is like.

I got my first job in a machine shop when I was 16. I was cleaning machines and sweeping the floor.  A year later I dropped out of school and started working there full time.  I was living on my own since I was 16 and needed the money.

The foreman there convinced me to go back to high school and get my diploma. He started a night shift and brought me on with him. I was able to do some school work during the day and he started teaching me to be a machinist at night.

If it hadn't been for that one guy, my life would have taken a completely different direction.
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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on June 24, 2022, 01:37 PMSome of the changes in your thought process over the years, I thought was awesome.

I didn't go through a medical scare like you, but it was in my early 40's that I also started to really question all of the tired Republican BS I had believed and espoused for most of my adult life.

Take the whole energy versus environment issue for example. Once upon a time I just regurgitated the R climate change denier talking points on demand. However after going back to school, learning enough to be able to actually read and understand scientific studies, I think we are destroying the planet and fossil fuels are not sustainable. The evidence points that way. However you have stupid opportunist Dems that try to exploit it for monetary gain and others that keep exaggerating for political gain. I also think we need fossil fuels right now because our entire world runs on them. I feel like the extreme division means you have to choose to support either the climate change deniers and just destroying the earth in the future or supporting the extreme green agenda that ruins lives and economies of the civilized world now.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: Smit on June 24, 2022, 09:44 AMAnd look, the Republicans on the Supreme court just overturned Roe vs Wade. Things aren't looking up.

I had no Idea you were Expecting??

"#birthperson"

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gcode

There is a flip side of this
I have seen many kids, born with a silver spoon in their mouths, piss it away through sheer arrogance
laziness and substance abuse. 
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beej

Quote from: neurosis on June 24, 2022, 01:47 PMIf it hadn't been for that one guy, my life would have taken a completely different direction.

and if you hadn't heeded his advice it could have as well.
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Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

mkd

Quote from: beej on June 24, 2022, 02:05 PMand if you hadn't heeded his advice it could have as well.

Just be thankful it was a machinist with appreciation for the natural sciences and not a Catholic priest 🙉🙈🙊
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beej

Quote from: YoDoug on June 24, 2022, 01:52 PMI didn't go through a medical scare like you, but it was in my early 40's that I also started to really question all of the tired Republican BS I had believed and espoused for most of my adult life.

Take the whole energy versus environment issue for example. Once upon a time I just regurgitated the R climate change denier talking points on demand. However after going back to school, learning enough to be able to actually read and understand scientific studies, I think we are destroying the planet and fossil fuels are not sustainable. The evidence points that way. However you have stupid opportunist Dems that try to exploit it for monetary gain and others that keep exaggerating for political gain. I also think we need fossil fuels right now because our entire world runs on them. I feel like the extreme division means you have to choose to support either the climate change deniers and just destroying the earth in the future or supporting the extreme green agenda that ruins lives and economies of the civilized world now.


I'm with ya, on that. I'm all for doing whatever can while not hurting people in the process.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

beej

Quote from: mkd on June 24, 2022, 02:10 PMJust be thankful it was a machinist with appreciation for the natural sciences and not a Catholic priest 🙉🙈🙊

a catholic priest developed the big bang theory.  :P  ;D
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo