Is he running

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YoDoug

Quote from: JParis on July 26, 2022, 01:25 PMI would say don't count those chickens before they hatch....

yes, it looks bad now....let's not forget the 1st 2 years of Clinton were abysmal....that ushered in the Republicans in the mid-terms, he pivoted on ploicy and wound up being re-elected to a second term...

A lot can happen between now and them

I agree. A lot can happen and the globalist billionaires would rather have a socialist Biden over a Left center Pence, but they will do what ever they can to make sure a MAGA candidate does not get the nomination.

If the R's take back the house, which it seems like they will, there will be gridlock. Gridlock with Trumps policies would be good, gridlock with Bidens policies will mean a horribly slow recovery from our "not a recession" recession. Unless Biden/Dems do something to lower energy costs, reduce inflation, address crime, etc, just maintaining the status quo will not do them well with the electorate. 
"In all my years here and on the old forum I have heard, and likely said, some pretty unhinged stuff. But congrats, you're the new leader in clubhouse."  - ghuns, 6/06/2025

Incogneeto

Quote from: Del. on July 26, 2022, 01:05 PMYeah I liked his direction of the country. That's what makes it a shame he can't act better   

Ok ,I'll bite.

Name some of the terrible things please.

Not the ones attributed to him by the Presssss.

Factual please, Ya know like drinkin Bleach??

neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on July 26, 2022, 01:56 PMName some of the terrible things please.

Are you saying that you've never heard him say one horrible thing in the four years he served as president, in the primary debates, presidential debates, or at any time on the campaign trail? Maybe a tweet or two?  Nothing?   :help:   
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on July 26, 2022, 02:24 PMAre you saying that you've never heard him say one horrible thing in the four years he served as president, in the primary debates, presidential debates, or at any time on the campaign trail? Maybe a tweet or two?  Nothing?   :help:   

Bidens wife just called a buncha people "Tacos"

No I heard several,and then I heard Many,Many,Many that he never said. But it was pushed as factual, THE MEDIA published anything they could find without even checking.

He would give a speech and the media would refuse to Air it. And yet cherry pick a comment without any context.

C'mon.... You been watchin' CNN again.??? :D

I know Del Does He has a Mancrush on Don Lemon. ;)



Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on July 26, 2022, 02:24 PMAre you saying that you've never heard him say one horrible thing in the four years he served as president, in the primary debates, presidential debates, or at any time on the campaign trail? Maybe a tweet or two?  Nothing?   :help:   


Apparently, you have a short memory.......Among other things. ;D
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neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on July 26, 2022, 03:11 PMBidens wife just called a buncha people "Tacos"


That feels a little like a 'whatabout-ism'  :D

I'm not sticking up for Biden.  I think that he's a POS too.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

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Tim Johnson

Quote from: neurosis on July 26, 2022, 02:24 PMAre you saying that you've never heard him say one horrible thing in the four years he served as president, in the primary debates, presidential debates, or at any time on the campaign trail? Maybe a tweet or two?  Nothing?  :help: 

The things that matter in not what comes out of his mouth but what policies are written on paper. Are you more interested in what comes out of Biden's mouth or what he has written into policy?
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neurosis

Quote from: Tim Johnson on July 27, 2022, 02:43 AMThe things that matter in not what comes out of his mouth but what policies are written on paper. Are you more interested in what comes out of Biden's mouth or what he has written into policy?

I agree that policy is more important. But I also think that it's important that the person running the Country at least has (or at least pretends to have) some kind of morals and integrity. I'd say not come across as a moron, but in that respect, I think that we're 0-2 in the last two presidencies. Neither Biden or Trump are very articulate.  :D  Biden sounds like mush mouth from fat albert and my girlfriends 6 year old grandson is more mature than Trump. These guys do represent our Country. :shrug:
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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Tim Johnson on July 27, 2022, 02:43 AMAre you more interested in what comes out of Biden's mouth or what he has written into policy?

Good point.

The word salad that comes out of Biden's mouth every day is irrelevant, and the level of confusion he creates is usually dependent on whether the teleprompter is working that day.  :wallbash:
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YoDoug

Quote from: Newbeeeeâ„¢ on July 27, 2022, 03:02 AMHe can run if he wants, BUT does anyone really believe for one millisecond that he'll be allowed to "win"?
Going forwards, people are chosen and placed into these positions....

My fear is the people are divided by red vs blue that they will never see the real truth of who is pulling the strings and pushing us into slavery in the form of renting your life just above poverty from the billionaires that own everything. That is the end goal of the great reset.
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"In all my years here and on the old forum I have heard, and likely said, some pretty unhinged stuff. But congrats, you're the new leader in clubhouse."  - ghuns, 6/06/2025

BrianP.

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Quote from: Tim Johnson on July 26, 2022, 11:54 AMWhat made Trump an idiot? The only "idiot" thing I can think of was not clearing out Obama's full staff and bringing in his own. They slow walked almost everything Trump wanted done and he still did more for the people than any other President in my lifetime.

I've talked about this before. I don't think Trump is stupid and I don't think all his policies were bad. But they weren't all good either. His tax reform did not benefit everyone. My wife and I are some who did not make out and actually paid more. That doesn't really bother me and does not factor into why I say he is an idiot. I say he is an idiot because he just can't keep his mouth shut. He is like a petulant 5 year old. As one of the most influential people in the country he does not need to get into all these petty pissing matches with anyone who disagrees with him. Face it he does not attack only Democrats but attacks anyone who disagrees with him. It's petty and childish. Does he need to hit back? Absolutely. But there are better ways to do it. IMHO if he could have kept his mouth from running away from him and stayed off of Twatter and ran on his accomplishments he would still be in office. Democrats would never vote for him because of the caustic media campaign but he could have drawn the independents to vote for him. But he just couldn't do it. Wouldn't and still won't listen to anybody. Idiot.

Edit: He should be in one respect more like Obama. Keep your mouth shut and work behind the scenes. Obama still weilds incredible influence. He is still helping to shaping policy almost 6 years after leaving office. You just don't hear about it that much.
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Tim Johnson

Quote from: BrianP. on July 27, 2022, 05:00 AMI've talked about this before. I don't think Trump is stupid and I don't think all his policies were bad. But they weren't all good either. His tax reform did not benefit everyone. My wife and I are some who did not make out and actually paid more. That doesn't really bother me and does not factor into why I say he is an idiot. I say he is an idiot because he just can't keep his mouth shut. He is like a petulant 5 year old. As one of the most influential people in the country he does not need to get into all these petty pissing matches with anyone who disagrees with him. Face it he does not attack only Democrats but attacks anyone who disagrees with him. It's petty and childish. Does he need to hit back? Absolutely. But there are better ways to do it. IMHO if he could have kept his mouth from running away from him and stayed off of Twatter and ran on his accomplishments he would still be in office. Democrats would never vote for him because of the caustic media campaign but he could have drawn the independents to vote for him. But he just couldn't do it. Wouldn't and still won't listen to anybody. Idiot.
So he's an idiot because he talks like most of the New York City people do. I personally don't give a damn how he or any politician talks. I do give a damn on the results of the laws and actions that affect the people they're supposed to help and protect.
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BrianP.

Quote from: Tim Johnson on July 27, 2022, 05:19 AMSo he's an idiot because he talks like most of the New York City people do. I personally don't give a damn how he or any politician talks. I do give a damn on the results of the laws and actions that affect the people they're supposed to help and protect.

It's not the talk but the substance. It's mostly all petty bullshit. I expect more from someone who represents me. Especially when he or she holds the highest position in the country. If my kids were like him I would smack them.

But that's the great thing about this country. You can have your opinion and I can have mine. I respect your opinion and even understand your view. I just don't have to whole heartedly agree with you. You can cast your vote for who you want and I can cast mine for who I want. One of the biggest problems we have as a country in my opinion is that people have lost the ability to respect differing opinions.

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gcode

Remember when the Germans laughed in Trump's face for saying their dependence on Russian natural gas
was a bad idea??  People may not like how Trump says things, but he's right way more than he's wrong

QuotePutin's new gas squeeze condemns Europe to recession and a hard winter of rationing

CNBC
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