diverting the Mississippi

Started by mkd, July 31, 2022, 06:41 PM

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mkd

https://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/contributors/valley-voice/2022/07/30/army-corps-engineers-must-study-feasibility-moving-water-west/10160750002/


This is similar to most plans I've heard. I think they would have it easier if they settled for less flow by diverting sooner like in the Missouri that way it'll just flow downhill into the Colorado, no pumps required.

RobertELee

Or maybe just fucking stop diverting water for a damn fish!!!!
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/ca-reservoirs-filled-to-top-in-2019-being-drained-by-state/


Orrrrrr.....just move all the Kali libtards to China, Venezuela, and Russia.

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BrianP.

Or don't build cities in a desert and then complain is hot and arid.
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marshal

Quote from: mkd on July 31, 2022, 06:41 PMhttps://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/contributors/valley-voice/2022/07/30/army-corps-engineers-must-study-feasibility-moving-water-west/10160750002/


This is similar to most plans I've heard. I think they would have it easier if they settled for less flow by diverting sooner like in the Missouri that way it'll just flow downhill into the Colorado, no pumps required.

There's this thing called the Continental Divide that prevents water from the Missouri flowing "downhill into the Colorado"

mkd

Quote from: marshal on August 01, 2022, 10:02 AMThere's this thing called the Continental Divide that prevents water from the Missouri flowing "downhill into the Colorado"

Draw a straight line from St. Louis to the colorado river. ITS DOWNHILL ALL THE WAY!!

RobertELee

Quote from: mkd on August 01, 2022, 10:59 AM
Draw a straight line from St. Louis to the colorado river. ITS DOWNHILL ALL THE WAY!!

Definitely NOT downhill...

Blue dots are St Louis and Colorado River.

(The light blue is closest to sea level, green is in the middle, dark red is mountains)


mkd

Move the left 📌 down a little and it will be downhill. DUH!
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marshal

Assuming there's enough water to pull from the reservoir at Pueblo, CO on the Arkansas River, you could either pump it up another 5,000 feet, or tunnel through the mountains for about 50 miles.  Run it right along US Hwy 50. 

Or the other would be to pull from the Pathfinder or Seminoe reservoirs in Wyoming and pump west to Big Sandy or Eden Reservoirs.  That's a relatively flat part of the divide, only around 1,000 feet in elevation change, and about 120 miles of pipe. 

Here's a really neat watershed map for those interested in seeing where their water really ends up: http://watersheds.fernleafinteractive.com/

Del.

All water runs downhill. You're welcome!
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Leehound

Quote from: Del. on August 01, 2022, 01:17 PMAll water runs downhill. You're welcome!

I am smarter because of you.   :guitar:
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MIL-TFP-41

The little I have read about it is the power to pump that volume of water up 4-5000 vertical feet would be huge. It is a cool idea, but I don't see it ever happening. Imagine the fit the environmentalists would throw (and admittedly with some justification) when you introduce the Mississippi river ecosystem into the Colorado river.
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gcode

Quote from: MIL-TFP-41 on August 01, 2022, 02:11 PMThe little I have read about it is the power to pump that volume of water up 4-5000 vertical feet would be huge. It is a cool idea, but I don't see it ever happening. Imagine the fit the environmentalists would throw (and admittedly with some justification) when you introduce the Mississippi river ecosystem into the Colorado river.

if the source has a higher altitude than the finial destination, the siphon principle will keep
the water flowing once its started. You only need to run the pumps to get it going
This assumes the entire pipeline is sealed. 
Lake Dillon in Colorado is at 7000 feet. There is a pipeline going over Loveland Pass at 10K feet down to Denver
at 5000 feet. Once they get the flow going  it is self sustaining, no pumps required.
The pipeline must be very strong though as the pressures involved are very high

Incogneeto

Quote from: mkd on August 01, 2022, 10:59 AM
Draw a straight line from St. Louis to the colorado river. ITS DOWNHILL ALL THE WAY!!

Soooo I can go up there Pee in the river and the St Louis Cardinals will be drinkin My Pee??

"WINNER"!!!!
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Incogneeto

Quote from: Leehound on August 01, 2022, 01:53 PMI am smarter because of you.   :guitar:

You Need all the help you can Get. ;D
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Incogneeto

Quote from: gcode on August 01, 2022, 02:25 PMif the source has a higher altitude than the finial destination, the siphon principle will keep
the water flowing once its started. You only need to run the pumps to get it going
This assumes the entire pipeline is sealed. 
Lake Dillon in Colorado is at 7000 feet. There is a pipeline going over Loveland Pass at 10K feet down to Denver
at 5000 feet. Once they get the flow going  it is self sustaining, no pumps required.
The pipeline must be very strong though as the pressures involved are very high
Sooo you are Kinda sayin it's a HUGE Siphon???

Who's gonna suck it to get it started?

I Nominate Neuro!!!! ;D  ;D  ;D