Just for Fun.

[Incogneeto]

Reality Check...#affirmation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sponsor-pulls-out-of-boise-pride-event-over-children-s-drag-show/ar-AA11CuBd?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ff0035c985614e3180f367d22c6f0ede

[CNCAppsJames]

@Incogneeto that's gonna be #Fakenews according to @Smit because Pedo Joe is Good To Go!

[TSmcam]

There's a few right and left leaning new sources I read that make me want to gouge my eyes out. Piss poor grammar. Basic spelling errors. etc...

One would think with a degree in journalism it would be safe to say basic sentence structure would be a thing but apparently not these days. It's like 3rd graders are writing this drivel.

Its happening the world over. I cringe reading some of these "news" pieces. Forsaking basic literary skills, and concentrating on wokeness.

[Matthew Hajicek]

1)
I find a lot of women to be attractive. that said, I waited until my wedding night to have sex with my wife and I've never had sex with a single other person. we were both 23 when we got married. If I had not married her, I would have waited till the right person came along or never at all. It's called discipline. sexuality is behavior. There is a difference between attraction and acting on it.

That has zero to do with any of my points.  Your sexuality is far more than the physical act of sex; it's the gender(s) you identify as, the gender(s) you are or are not attracted to, etc.  Would you claim that everyone is non-gendered until they have sex?

2) what are those differences in the brain you speak of. If that were true there would be genetic testing for SSA. but there is not.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0801566105

Not every physical trait in an organism is a direct result of genetics.  There are what's called "epigenetics", whereby an individual organism, or it's parent, can flip switches to activate or inactivate portions of the genetic code, based on stimulus such as long periods of hunger or thirst, or abnormal temperatures.  I recall reading about an insect that was once believed to be three distinct species, because it's offspring would take one of three very different forms based on the epigenetic switches set by it's parents due to different climate patterns.  All three forms are genetically identical.

3) wouldn't you agree with me that stress-free pregnancies are a relatively recent construct. I wonder how stress free pregnancies were for women, let's just say, 3000 years ago. or even 500 years ago. It's a wonder any of us are here at all based on that logic.

No, I would not agree.  Modern times are in many ways far more stressful for many people due to crowding and competition.  What is relatively new is modern medical intervention which can save the lives of mothers and babies who would have otherwise died.  My wife and our first-born fall into that category.

4)Homosexuality is not normal or natural by your own admission if it occurs due to stress. (which it doesn't) 4% of the population self-identifies as being gay. you seem like an analytical fellow. how does that compute in a statistics and probability study? Let's say there are %50 more in the closet that haven't come out yet. that would be 6%. That doesn't sound normal to me? I have a condition called vitiligo. it causes white spots on my skin. 2% of the world population have it. I wouldn't call that normal to have vitiligo.

Of course it's normal and natural.  Would you say it's not natural to get angry when threatened?  Or for your body to start burning fat if you're undernourished?  These are all normal and natural responses to certain kinds of stress.  It is normal and natural to have a certain small percentage of the population be nonbinary, and there is evidence that this has been true since hunter-gatherer days.

One example:
https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/two-spirits-one-heart-five-genders

Only around ten percent of the world population is white; so by your definition of "normal", all white people are abnormal.

Would you ostracize people for being left handed, or red-headed?  Would you push back against their attempts to be seen as "normal human beings" with equal rights?

[Incogneeto]

Its happening the world over. I cringe reading some of these "news" pieces. Forsaking basic literary skills, and concentrating on wokeness.

Pffft if somebody Farts in Cincinnati and a woman is aghast at the stench.

THE NEWS is at my door.

CLICK , CLICK!!


"Flatuencinnati"!!!!



"My Bridesmaid Farted so I kicked her out of the wedding"!!


This is "NEWS" nowadays.

[Incogneeto]

That has zero to do with any of my points.  Your sexuality is far more than the physical act of sex; it's the gender(s) you identify as, the gender(s) you are or are not attracted to, etc.  Would you claim that everyone is non-gendered until they have sex?
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0801566105

Not every physical trait in an organism is a direct result of genetics.  There are what's called "epigenetics", whereby an individual organism, or it's parent, can flip switches to activate or inactivate portions of the genetic code, based on stimulus such as long periods of hunger or thirst, or abnormal temperatures.  I recall reading about an insect that was once believed to be three distinct species, because it's offspring would take one of three very different forms based on the epigenetic switches set by it's parents due to different climate patterns.  All three forms are genetically identical.

No, I would not agree.  Modern times are in many ways far more stressful for many people due to crowding and competition.  What is relatively new is modern medical intervention which can save the lives of mothers and babies who would have otherwise died.  My wife and our first-born fall into that category.

Of course it's normal and natural.  Would you say it's not natural to get angry when threatened?  Or for your body to start burning fat if you're undernourished?  These are all normal and natural responses to certain kinds of stress.  It is normal and natural to have a certain small percentage of the population be nonbinary, and there is evidence that this has been true since hunter-gatherer days.

One example:
https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/two-spirits-one-heart-five-genders

Only around ten percent of the world population is white; so by your definition of "normal", all white people are abnormal.

Would you ostracize people for being left handed, or red-headed?  Would you push back against their attempts to be seen as "normal human beings" with equal rights?

Hey, The game is getting ready to start, I will talk to you guys later.

[neurosis]

Hey, The game is getting ready to start, I will talk to you guys later.

Was that the future ex mrs incog singing the national anthem?   

[beej]

That has zero to do with any of my points.  Your sexuality is far more than the physical act of sex; it's the gender(s) you identify as, the gender(s) you are or are not attracted to, etc.  Would you claim that everyone is non-gendered until they have sex?

Now you went from talking about attraction to gender. I thought those were 2 different things in your world. Human sexuality is a behaviour. Gender is an identity that is based on biological differences such as male anatomy vs female anatomy. That anatomy affects behavior, and behavior can be controlled and constrained. ie, males are as a general rule, more aggressive than females, but that tendency to aggression must be constrained to societal norms. sexuality is also a behavior that must be controlled to societal norms. We are now in the process of removing age-old societal norms and it is going to have long term negative consequences on society.

Not every physical trait in an organism is a direct result of genetics.  There are what's called "epigenetics"

epigenetics are responses to nature that are reversible. If you are blaming homosexuality on epigenetics then it stands to reason that conversion therapy would work. https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/epigenetics.htm

[beej]

No, I would not agree.  Modern times are in many ways far more stressful for many people due to crowding and competition.

dude! you are hilarious! you should do stand up comedy or something.

[Matthew Hajicek]

Now you went from talking about attraction to gender. I thought those were 2 different things in your world. Human sexuality is a behaviour. Gender is an identity that is based on biological differences such as male anatomy vs female anatomy. That anatomy affects behavior, and behavior can be controlled and constrained. ie, males are as a general rule, more aggressive than females, but that tendency to aggression must be constrained to societal norms. sexuality is also a behavior that must be controlled to societal norms. We are now in the process of removing age-old societal norms and it is going to have long term negative consequences on society.

Your sexuality is part of your identity.  It's how you think of yourself, how you dress, how you stand and walk, how you speak, how you present yourself.  With years of practice, you could come across as female if you really tried, but it would never be you; you would always be acting, hiding the real you, and that would wear you down psychologically.  Would you accept that?

epigenetics are responses to nature that are reversible. If you are blaming homosexuality on epigenetics then it stands to reason that conversion therapy would work. https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/epigenetics.htm

Epigenetics are like dip switches on a motherboard, telling the system how to boot.  Flipping them after bootup will not cause the system to act as if they were in that position on boot.  Once the brain has developed, there will always be permanent differences, unless you take it apart cell by cell and rebuild it to your standards, in which case you'd be killing that individual and creating a different one.

"Conversion therapy" is basically just punishing people for being themselves until they act (as in what an an actor does) within "society norms" all the time.  It does not change who they are underneath, and dramatically increases their chance of suicide:

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgb-suicide-ct-press-release/

It's cruel and inhumane.

[neurosis]

epigenetics

All of this aside, and don't answer this if you don't want to; Do you have any close friends or family who are gay? 

I literally didn't know anyone (I thought) until I was in my mid 20's.  I started dating a girl who had a really rough military father.  Once I got to know him I got to hear the story about how he raised a family of four his entire life living a lie.  He was living with his gay boyfriend. I thought that they were roommates. 


I had a really good friend that I played ball with (no puns incog). We knew his whole family through high school.  His brother had been hiding the fact that he was gay his entire life.   He finally came out when we were in our 20's. 

That has to be a tough way to go through life.   You're not going to convince them to be straight anymore than they could convince you to be gay. 

[Incogneeto]

All of this aside, and don't answer this if you don't want to; Do you have any close friends or family who are gay? 

I literally didn't know anyone (I thought) until I was in my mid 20's.  I started dating a girl who had a really rough military father.  Once I got to know him I got to hear the story about how he raised a family of four his entire life living a lie.  He was living with his gay boyfriend. I thought that they were roommates. 


I had a really good friend that I played ball with (no puns incog). We knew his whole family through high school.  His brother had been hiding the fact that he was gay his entire life.   He finally came out when we were in our 20's. 

That has to be a tough way to go through life.   You're not going to convince them to be straight anymore than they could convince you to be gay. 

No Puns. You make me Smile.

My middle Son is the most loving, and He keeps his Relationships close to the vest.

I have never seen a pic of him and a girl. But i have seen several pics of him as best man at several Gay weddings.

Maybe he has not decided to test "The Old Man"

All I can say is It's Not My Job to decide Who he Loves.

I Can only wish Him Happiness.

My Job was to Keep him alive.

If he is afraid to tell me because he thinks I will disapprove.

He is wrong.

I Love Him. Therefore I have to accept his decision.

I love all my Children. Free Will is up to Them NOT Me.

If He wants a Parade?? Nope.

[Incogneeto]

All of this aside, and don't answer this if you don't want to; Do you have any close friends or family who are gay? 

I literally didn't know anyone (I thought) until I was in my mid 20's.  I started dating a girl who had a really rough military father.  Once I got to know him I got to hear the story about how he raised a family of four his entire life living a lie.  He was living with his gay boyfriend. I thought that they were roommates. 


I had a really good friend that I played ball with (no puns incog). We knew his whole family through high school.  His brother had been hiding the fact that he was gay his entire life.   He finally came out when we were in our 20's. 

That has to be a tough way to go through life.   You're not going to convince them to be straight anymore than they could convince you to be gay. 

And Everytime you include me in a post. "You are just Pokin The Tiger"

Love ya Neuro.

Kiss ST for me.


No!! I mean really give her some Tongue.!!!!

"Motorboat" !!

I saw a vid of a toddler in the Bra section "motorboatin" all the large size bras.

I said "Neuro"

Bwahahahaha

[CNCAppsJames]

"Conversion therapy" is basically just punishing people for being themselves until they act (as in what an an actor does) within "society norms" all the time.  It does not change who they are underneath, and dramatically increases their chance of suicide:

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgb-suicide-ct-press-release/

It's cruel and inhumane.

Conversion Therapy is neither cruel nor inhumane... so long as it's voluntary. Suicide rates are high for that community no matter what. There has NEVER been a more permissive time in history where people's proclivities were allowed to just be, or have just been accepted than today. There are no practical limits on whom one can marry now. There are no practical limits on the behaviors one can practice now. There are no practical limits on what types of PERMAMENT surgical procedures one can elect for oneself. Etc...

The way I see it, people that are not comfortable with who they are, will NEVER be comfortable with who they are. No amount of acceptance, medication, surgery, or pronouns, etc... will solve those problems that reside between one's ears.

I'd argue all this trans shit is nothing more than social contagion. People have this built in desire to be "special". These trans people get special treatment. These pronoun people get special treatment. These hyphenated people get special treatment. It's a sickness that has just exploded with the advent of social media. BITD, we used to keep each other in check... usually with the oblicatory "Man... I wouldn't do that shit if I was you...". Now, we just open up TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, etc... and we can find groups that not only don't keep us in check, but celebrate and encourage all sorts of activities, behaviors and choices that are downright destructive for us not only as individals, but us as a society.

Cruel and inhumane is when we do/say nothing as we watch people destroy themselves, their communities, and society.

[neurosis]

And Everytime you include me in a post. "You are just Pokin The Tiger"

Love ya Neuro.

Yes! I'm trying to convert you over to my side.  Accepting.  lol. 

that was a joke btw.