What are your thoughts on EV or Hybrid cars?

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mowens

#75
December 13, 2022, 07:45 AM
The one he said was $75000 is at a large shopping mall and, according to him, gives a full charge in 30 minutes.
He didn't say how much for the home charger.

I have no personal knowledge of any of this stuff. The driver seemed quite proud of his car and talked about it the whole trip, prompted by questions from me.
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YoDoug

#76
December 13, 2022, 07:53 AM
Quote from: mowens on December 13, 2022, 07:45 AMThe one he said was $75000 is at a large shopping mall and, according to him, gives a full charge in 30 minutes.
He didn't say how much for the home charger.

I have no personal knowledge of any of this stuff. The driver seemed quite proud of his car and talked about it the whole trip, prompted by questions from me.

That would make sense. To charge full in 30 minutes requires power in the range of what a big machine tool is going to need.
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YoDoug

#77
December 13, 2022, 08:02 AM
In a semi related issue, Scientists just announced a major breakthrough in fusion power. Until this latest breakthrough the power to contain the fusion reaction was basically as much as the power output. The recent released data shows a 50% increase in power output. IMO, this is the real tech that will change cars and energy. For reference the time between the first nuclear fission reactor 5 minute test run to the first nuclear power plant going online was about 15 years.

 
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BrianP.

#78
December 13, 2022, 08:11 AM
I just saw this. Not much reporting on it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/flooded-tesla-evs-from-hurricane-ian-exploding-all-over-florida/ar-AA12LMP6

QuoteTo put out these very hot fires can take thousands of gallons of water to put out. Tesla's emergency response guide says between 3,000 to 8,000 gallons of water are necessary to extinguish an EV fire. For gas-powered vehicles, it takes on average around 1,000 gallons of water to put out a fire.  

RobertELee

#80
December 13, 2022, 10:29 AM
Quote from: BrianP. on December 13, 2022, 08:11 AMI just saw this. Not much reporting on it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/flooded-tesla-evs-from-hurricane-ian-exploding-all-over-florida/ar-AA12LMP6


Some places are even digging holes and pushing the vehicle into it, filling the hole with water, and letting it sit for a few days. Once a lithium battery pack is on fire it's almost impossible to stop. I've heard pouring salt into the vehicle can help but you need a lot of salt.

mkd

#81
December 13, 2022, 11:03 AM
Quote from: RobertELee on December 13, 2022, 10:29 AMSome places are even digging holes and pushing the vehicle into it, filling the hole with water, and letting it sit for a few days. Once a lithium battery pack is on fire it's almost impossible to stop. I've heard pouring salt into the vehicle can help but you need a lot of salt.
i heard it's more effective to push it over the cliff with a pair of dead strippers inside.

YoDoug

#82
December 13, 2022, 11:04 AM
Quote from: mkd on December 13, 2022, 11:03 AMwith a pair of dead strippers

I haven't checked with Alexa but I'm sure you can fit more than a pair...
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gcode

#83
December 13, 2022, 11:28 AM Last Edit: December 13, 2022, 12:09 PM by gcode
Quote from: YoDoug on December 13, 2022, 07:31 AMI would be curious as to the details of that.
It was just watercooler talk but, Cali is different from sane places.
The idiots that run this state have decommissioned so many fossil fuel and nuke plants that they cannot produce enough electricity to keep the lights on when demmand goes up.
They are even tearing down renewable power sources (hydroelectric power with water supplied by dams).
The end result is they have to buy dirty power from out of state at market prices.
My power bill has tripled this year. I cannot imagine what my employer is paying for electricity.
There is a multimillion square foot warehouse complex that was completed this summer that turned into a legal slugfest when the power company refused to supply power stating they did not have adequate supply
for the new complex. I don't know how that turned out.
Another factor is the wild fires we've had over the last few years.
The power company was found liable for several of them to the tune of billions in judgments against the power company. The power company has responded by declaring bankruptcy and grinding every last dime out
of it's customers... We are governed by idiots.

crazy^millman

#84
December 13, 2022, 12:20 PM
Quote from: gcode on December 13, 2022, 11:28 AMIt was just watercooler talk but, Cali is different from sane places.
The idiots that run this state have decommissioned so many fossil fuel and nuke plants that they cannot produce enough electricity to keep the lights on when demmand goes up.
They are even tearing down renewable power sources (hydroelectric power with water supplied by dams).
The end result is they have to buy dirty power from out of state at market prices.
My power bill has tripled this year. I cannot imagine what my employer is paying for electricity.
There is a multimillion square foot warehouse complex that was completed this summer that turned into a legal slugfest when the power company refused to supply power stating they did not have adequate supply
for the new complex. I don't know how that turned out.
Another factor is the wild fires we've had over the last few years.
The power company was found liable for several of them to the tune of billions in judgments against the power company. The power company has responded by declaring bankruptcy and grinding every last dime out
of it's customers... We are governed by idiots.



Left Leaning Policies and leaders elected by Left Leaning Voters.

gcode

#85
December 13, 2022, 12:25 PM
Quote from: crazy^millman on December 13, 2022, 12:20 PMLeft Leaning Policies and leaders elected by Left Leaning Voters.

climate change is a religious cult
the only cure is to starve in the dark
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Del.

#86
December 13, 2022, 12:28 PM
Quote from: crazy^millman on December 13, 2022, 12:20 PMLeft Leaning Policies and leaders elected by Left Leaning Voters.

They most always make things worse. 

mkd

#87
December 13, 2022, 01:02 PM
Quote from: gcode on December 13, 2022, 12:25 PMclimate change is a religious cult
the only cure is to starve in the dark
a proper Easter will resurrect global warming.
I sure miss global warming. those were the good'ol days when gore's apocalypse would hit in 2007.
I love global warming
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mkd

#88
December 13, 2022, 01:06 PM
they did actually put the brakes on close diablo canyon...so there is that..
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gcode

#89
December 13, 2022, 01:11 PM
Quote from: mkd on December 13, 2022, 01:02 PMa proper Easter will resurrect global warming.
I sure miss global warming. those were the good'ol days when gore's apocalypse would hit in 2007.
I love global warming

you are a youngster
when I was in college, they told us we'd hit peak oil, overpopulation, mass starvation and
global winter by the early 90's
Maybe they meant the 4090's ???  :whistle:
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