Parler is Gone...

[Sharles]

Changes are coming to the police force. And they should.

De-fund is a generic term that makes it sound like the police are going to be abolished and that's just not so.

You are correct it's a generic term that most moderate Democrats have RUN away from because it truly shows the mindset of the radical Left and their hatred of the Police, even if I will give them the systemic nature of how things are tilted against the Black population in our country. I hope you are correct that radical changes are coming: it's a national disgrace that we as a nation have so many people incarcerated, more than any other nation on earth per capita, I believe. Not even Russia and China our national boogeymen topped us...
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[Smit]

That's just stupid.

Well, I gotta admit you sure know stupid, so please, elaborate.

I'm eager to learn more.

[neurosis]

Changes are coming to the police force. And they should.

De-fund is a generic term that makes it sound like the police are going to be abolished and that's just not so.

De-fund means de-fund.  In a city that was already complaining about not having enough police patrols and almost no-existent police response, they've been on pace to lose 200 officers this year due to the de-fund movement.  My boss called the police because our alarm went off a while back.  he told them that he was here at the shop and armed.   It took them 2 hours to get here. That shouldn't be the norm anywhere.

[Jon@NOWHERE]

And you call people on the right nuts....

This is Jons spirit animal

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Smit, I normally give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you are being naïve if you think the Left isn't as delusional and brainwashed as the many of the sheeple on the Right with the Woke and PC crowd trying to tear down EVERYTHING this nation was built on. Did we and do we still have problems? Of course, and I'm all for rectifying them, but the Progressive desire to completely remake our country is honestly a little scary because I would bet my life they won't do nearly as good a job as our Founding Fathers despite their warts.

I read an article on Fox yesterday where Angela Merkle from Germany said she found Trump's ban on Twitter 'problematic.' I guess over there they have national standards for social media and do NOT allow the tech giants to impose their own Left-leaning ones on everyone. Sounded like a better solution, imo...

Sharles always trying to be in the middle.

I don't even know what you are talking about. What is the "left"  actually trying to do to tear down EVERYTHING this nation was built on?

Is it the crazy list of demands that popped  up in Portland or Seattle that has absolutely zero chance of even being taken seriously?

You talk in the vague generalities without making any points. So let's get specific. What is Biden and the left going to do that rivals what the nut jobs on the right are trying to do which is turn this country into a fascist state?

Are you denying the lies and propaganda being put forth by Trump, his cronies, and the right wing media?

Stop the steal? Qanon? Massive voter fraud with no evidence? A pedophile ring trying to take power in the U.S.?

I try to give you the benefit of the doubt too but you need to quit trying so hard to please the "right" by being "reasonable" "open minded"  and "sympathetic to their cause" and just being honest.

Maybe you missed the part where Trump incited a bunch of brainwashed morons to storm the capitol to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power?

Can you point to exactly what Trump told them that inspired them to go to the Capital building and do what they did?

You find anything along the lines of what your Democratic leaders like Maxine Water, Nanci Pelosi, AOC have said in the past, and I will agree with you.

[Del.]

That's just stupid.

Well, I gotta admit you sure know stupid, so please, elaborate.

I'm eager to learn more.

Pfft. I ain't wasting my time trying to converse with you.

[Del.]

Did you guys know that "Stop the Steal" is also a generic term?

[Smit]

Did you guys know that "Stop the Steal" is also a generic term?

That's just stupid.

[Smit]

Can you point to exactly what Trump told them that inspired them to go to the Capital building and do what they did?

Watch Tucker Carlson, he'll explain it to you.

[Del.]

Can you point to exactly what Trump told them that inspired them to go to the Capital building and do what they did?

Watch Tucker Carlson, he'll explain it to you.

Never heard of him.

[Smit]

Never heard of him.

I rather doubt that.

[Jon@NOWHERE]

Can you point to exactly what Trump told them that inspired them to go to the Capital building and do what they did?

Watch Tucker Carlson, he'll explain it to you.

I don't have fox news as part of my cable channel package.  But if you can't back up your claims then I understand, if you don't want to say specifically what he said cause you know it makes your weak claim crumble then that is fine as well....

[Smit]

I don't have fox news as part of my cable channel package.  But if you can't back up your claims then I understand, if you don't want to say specifically what he said cause you know it makes your weak claim crumble then that is fine as well....

How about if I don't want to waste time talking to a brainwashed Republican?

Is that fine also?

[Matthew Hajicek]

[quote="Jim at gentex" post_id=3116 time=1610463374 user_id=83]
Now we have a similar situation where the vast majority of people there were not violent, but the whole group are being portrayed as domestic terrorists.  Pathetic.
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I do think this whole trend of trying to get your political opponents labeled as "terrorists" is extremely dangerous.  This was initiated by Trump and the right, trying to get the Antifa movement labeled as a terrorist organization.  The problem that this problem is based on was also started by the right, decades ago creating the whole "terrorist" legal classification that can be denied constitutional rights of fair trial and humane treatment.  Combine these, and once your political opponents are classified as terrorists, it's game over for all opposition.

[Jim at Gentex]

[quote="Jim at gentex" post_id=3116 time=1610463374 user_id=83]

People protesting the capitol, entering.. then getting attacked by cops.. kind of.

Yeah...like Ashli Babbit was "kind of" attacked by Capitol Police.
She's dead you fkin moron.

ZERO coverage in the MSM...ZERO
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When you were defending the BLM protests, everyone here said the actual peaceful protesters had every right to be heard, and the few troublemakers who were responsible for the violence should be held accountable.

I don't know anyone here who said differently.

Now we have a similar situation where the vast majority of people there were not violent, but the whole group are being portrayed as domestic terrorists.  Pathetic.

Yeah kind of, she was killed, and that's unfortunate, but half of the people were just let into the building - so yeah, kind of, you fucking moron.

And you kept saying you supported peaceful protests but wouldn't believe they were actually happening.

Talk more out of both sides if your mouth why don't you, dipshit.
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Fuck off little boy.
I'm tired of your shit too.

[Sharles]

I don't have fox news as part of my cable channel package.  But if you can't back up your claims then I understand, if you don't want to say specifically what he said cause you know it makes your weak claim crumble then that is fine as well....

Seriously, Jon? We've beaten this dead horse. Those on the Right REFUSE to admit that Trump incited the crowd, specifically told them to walk down to the Capitol and had used all kinds of other language to 'whip' up the crowd to make Pence and the others stand strong.  and keep the election from being 'stolen' from them. Did Trump utter the specific words to loot and destroy the Capitol, no, but that's a rather weak argument against culpability even if it might work inside a court room...it's still morally and ethically reprehensible just because it 'might' be legal.