The next few years?

Started by YoDoug, January 18, 2021, 07:25 AM

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Dan_AKA_ROY23

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Quote from: YoDoug post_id=3790 time=1610983558 user_id=58If they get a fraction of the wish list ($15 minimum, medicare for all, Green deal, etc) we will see reduced jobs and a jump in inflation.


That's my worry. Plus at some point Biden will increase the corporate tax rate. Combine that and the minimum wage hike and it's like a double tax on businesses (increased stimulus should balance that out in the short to intermediate term. Longer term it will negatively catch up to them) Some will be much more impacted by a minimum wage hike than others. Fortune 500 companies can absorb it easily as most employees make more than $15/ hr. already. Machine shops should be fine (few make under $15/hr.). Its the tiny businesses like Pizza store owners would would suffer. My company I work for will take a bit of a hit as we have under $15 workers.

CNCAppsJames

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The tax and minimum wage effect on manufacturing are my #2 concerns with the incoming administration. They are going to tax corporations and "the evil 'rich' guys" as well as rain down free shit with impunity. There will be a price to pay for that. And of course the leftist turdbirds will claim "we never thought that would happen".
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Smit

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Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=3873 time=1611013048 user_id=82Some will be much more impacted by a minimum wage hike than others. Fortune 500 companies can absorb it easily as most employees make more than $15/ hr. already. Machine shops should be fine (few make under $15/hr.). Its the tiny businesses like Pizza store owners would would suffer. My company I work for will take a bit of a hit as we have under $15 workers.


I want to see the details of the proposed minimum wage hike. I expect there will be exemptions for very small business owners who honestly can't survive paying the minimum wage. I'm sure we can all agree it's not good for the economy to have those small businesses go out of business.

byte

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Quote from: Smit post_id=3904 time=1611062185 user_id=66
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=3873 time=1611013048 user_id=82Some will be much more impacted by a minimum wage hike than others. Fortune 500 companies can absorb it easily as most employees make more than $15/ hr. already. Machine shops should be fine (few make under $15/hr.). Its the tiny businesses like Pizza store owners would would suffer. My company I work for will take a bit of a hit as we have under $15 workers.


I want to see the details of the proposed minimum wage hike. I expect there will be exemptions for very small business owners who honestly can't survive paying the minimum wage. I'm sure we can all agree it's not good for the economy to have those small businesses go out of business.


The (In my opinion) excessive anti covid measures have killed many of the small businesses, this is just the final nail in the coffin for those who remain.
Big box stores will rule the retail space.

Matthew Hajicek

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[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=3915 time=1611070622 user_id=50]
The (In my opinion) excessive anti covid measures have killed many of the small businesses,
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IMO the problem wasn't the measures being excessive, rather that they've been in effect so long because all measures taken in the US were half-measures.  When it comes to contagion containment, a half-measure is little better than no measure.  If we had done a serious, hard lockdown for a month or two starting in March, and began requiring all international travelers to undergo a two week quarantine, we'd have a good chance of being able to operate normally today (with the exception of maintaining the travelers quarantine.)

byte

#21
[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=3921 time=1611071486 user_id=57]
[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=3915 time=1611070622 user_id=50]
The (In my opinion) excessive anti covid measures have killed many of the small businesses,
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IMO the problem wasn't the measures being excessive, rather that they've been in effect so long because all measures taken in the US were half-measures.  When it comes to contagion containment, a half-measure is little better than no measure.  If we had done a serious, hard lockdown for a month or two starting in March, and began requiring all international travelers to undergo a two week quarantine, we'd have a good chance of being able to operate normally today (with the exception of maintaining the travelers quarantine.)
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The small businesses were closed while the big box stores were allowed to stay open, I'm sorry if you can't see the correlation.

Matthew Hajicek

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[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=3923 time=1611071581 user_id=50]
The small businesses were closed while the big box stores were allowed to stay open, I'm sorry if you can't see the correlation.
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Exactly; half-measures.

marshal

#23
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=3804 time=1610987895 user_id=58I remember back in the Obama days when gas was over $4/gal in MN. I was driving a suburban with a 42 gal tank. I think one time I actually filled $160 at one time. Glad I live 13 miles from work now.


 And it's already happening.  Up $0.30 in the last week in southern MN.  That's really going to hurt my 36-gallon fillup every two weeks.

Matthew Hajicek

#24
Quote from: marshal post_id=3927 time=1611077390 user_id=93And it's already happening.  Up $0.30 in the last week in southern MN.  That's really going to hurt my 36-gallon fillup every two weeks.


Glad I live 3 miles from work.  Just drove 38 miles round trip to get materials, burned less than a gallon to do it.

RobertELee

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Dan_AKA_ROY23

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Quote from: Smit post_id=3904 time=1611062185 user_id=66I want to see the details of the proposed minimum wage hike. I expect there will be exemptions for very small business owners who honestly can't survive paying the minimum wage. I'm sure we can all agree it's not good for the economy to have those small businesses go out of business.


Haven't read anything about proposed exemptions. That would be huge, though. What about agriculture? Paying field workers $15 an hour? They would pass the price on to us (sticker shock at the super markets). Or the 18 year olds McDonald's hires? Expect our Big Macs to go way up in price (hmmm... haven't had a Big Mac in years, come to think of it).

There's a host of issues that could cascade in to an economic chain reaction.

Jim at Gentex

#27
The next few years?
We will have a choice between a shit sammich, and a shit sammich with extra shit.
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TylerBeer

#28
If not raising the minimum wage then what solution for reducing the economic burden of the poor? It certainly hasn't lessened in the last four years, nor the 8 before that.
Wage gaps have only increased.

You think bezos is taking the efficiencies in his business and passing it onto workers? Helllllll no.

And we as consumers are just as much to blame.

neurosis

#29
Quote from: Dan_AKA_ROY23 post_id=3932 time=1611079075 user_id=82Or the 18 year olds McDonald's hires? Expect our Big Macs to go way up in price (hmmm... haven't had a Big Mac in years, come to think of it).



Out of curiosity, how much do you think that Big Mac would go up in price? $.50?  $1.00?
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