Microbiologist debunks RFK's claims made on JRE poscast.

Started by neurosis, August 10, 2023, 12:18 PM

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There is a great book called "Doubt is their product". It takes a look at how the tobacco industry became the model for other industries when the science doesn't look good for them. It shows insider info on how the tobacco companies launched entire science divisions/labs to create doubt and confusion around their products. this has become the goto strategy for big pharma, big food, big oil, etc. When Phillip Morris started losing the tobacco truth battle was right about the same time they bought Kraft foods. They immediately started applying the "create doubt" strategy to the foods they now produced.

The bottom line is, for every person that goes into the sciences with altruistic intentions, there are far more businessmen, lobbyists, politicians, etc. that are trying to influence the science to keep their profits rolling in.
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RobertELee

Listened to it this morning. Unless I missed it, the one thing I noticed he skipped over was the Kern/Geier study showing the evidence of Ethylmercury going directly to and affecting the brain. He mentioned the half life of Ethylmercury in the body, but conveniently left out it passing through the Blood Brain Barrier and staying in the brain. And it's not like this was a small point by RFKjr, they spent a good portion talking about it, and mentioned it numerous times.

I dont have the time or ambition to follow all of his links and try to debunk them.

Also, I didn't like how a so called "scientist/doctor" took shots at his voice, saying he stuttered when confronted with questions, that's the fucking way he talks. Attempt to debunk his theories all you want, but the moment you start taking shots at his medical condition you lose credibility, especially medical professionals.

I'd also like to know who's payroll he is on. Is he a 100% independent scientist, or is there money coming from certain big pharmas?

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Quote from: neurosis on August 11, 2023, 05:59 AMWhen you hang your hat on a single study when there are literally 100's of others refuting your data, I'd have to lean toward the 100's of others?
That being said, there once was a time where 100's of studies showed smoking was either "safe" or not unhealthy.

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neurosis

Quote from: RobertELee on August 11, 2023, 08:16 AMUnless I missed it, the one thing I noticed he skipped over was the Kern/Geier study showing the evidence of Ethylmercury going directly to and affecting the brain.

I did notice that and I would be curious to hear what he had to say about it. 

The things that he did point out that RFK conveniently never discusses, is that the only vaccinations that use thimerosal anymore are some flu vaccines.  You can request flu vaccines that don't contain it.  He also points out that children's vaccines haven't used it in years.

Quote from: RobertELee on August 11, 2023, 08:16 AMAlso, I didn't like how a so called "scientist/doctor" took shots at his voice, saying he stuttered when confronted with questions,


That's not really what he said. He was pointing out that RFK fumbled when he knew that he couldn't get in to the weeds when it comes to the "science" behind any of what he's talking about.  RFK has even admitted that the "science" is over his head. 


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Quote from: neurosis on August 11, 2023, 05:59 AMYou mean, like RFK Jr does?  :lol:  He conveniently picks studies that support his theory, while ignoring 100's of others that disprove them. 

When you hang your hat on a single study when there are literally 100's of others refuting your data, I'd have to lean toward the 100's of others?   
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