Hamas surprise attack out of Gaza Strip

Started by neurosis, October 07, 2023, 07:29 AM

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Jeff

Quote from: Del. on October 22, 2023, 07:58 AMI'm not a Biden fan but I do think he is handling this war correctly.

How so? It's just another front to launder more money and divert attention.

He's asking for another $100 billion...but $60B of that goes to Ukraine.
This admin couldn't care less about Israel.

Del.

Quote from: Jeff on October 24, 2023, 07:29 AMHow so? It's just another front to launder more money and divert attention.

He's asking for another $100 billion...but $60B of that goes to Ukraine.
This admin couldn't care less about Israel.


We just have different opinions on this.
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mkd

Trump: 4 years no wars
Biden funds middle east terror and promotes eastern Europe war. He sure getting the deep state vote
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gcode

Quote from: mkd on October 24, 2023, 08:00 AMTrump: 4 years no wars

and he was close to getting a peace treaty, formal recognition and exchange of ambassadors
between Saudi Arbia and Israel. It would have been a game changer in the Middle East.
Saudi Arbia and Israel had recently been discussing moving forward establishing relations.
That is one of the main reasons for the Oct 7 attack.
The only peace the Palestinians are interested in is one in which every Jew on the planet has been exterminated.
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mkd

MIC can't support a POTUS that doesn't support them

YoDoug

Quote from: mkd on October 24, 2023, 08:11 AMMIC can't support a POTUS that doesn't support them

Partners in crime. Biden crime family needs blank check spending to Ukraine and now Israel to keep their personal friends and family money train rolling. The MIC needs perpetual war to keep their power and money train rolling.

With the economy heading into what could be a really severe recession next year I had been thinking the deep state would try another Covid round, but I just don't the public would go along like they did last time. A new war, like regime change in Iran, would keep the sheeple distracted from massive election fraud needed for Biden/deep state to win. After 9/11 the majority of the country was united in thinking Iraq needs to be taken down. A couple of terrorist attacks in America that could be traced to Iran funding/proxy could be that same catalyst for the MIC to wage another war against a sovereign country.
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Del.

Very hard to imagine what it would be like to be Jewish. Scary to see Russians hunting for Jews in an airport to kill them. I've never fully understood the hatred of Jews.

gcode

I was reading an article over the weekend about some of the things that happened in the villages that were overrun on Oct 7
In one case, the terrorist broke into a house and killed the husband outright.
They put the couple's baby in the oven, turned it on and gang raped the mother while
she listened to the screams of her baby cooking in the oven. They finally shot the woman.
We know this is what a happened because these animals  live streamed it.
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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Del. on October 30, 2023, 09:23 AMI've never fully understood the hatred of Jews.

For those who are unfamiliar, the history of the dispute between Arabs and Jews goes all the way back to Bible times.
Abraham was the father of the Arabs through his son Ishmael, and he was also the father of the Jews through his son Isaac.
(On a side note, it's sad that the Arabs and Jews are actually step-brothers who still don't get along even today...)

The dispute revolves mostly around the Holy Land itself, with the descendants of both of Abraham's sons claiming rightful ownership of that which the Bible says God Himself had given to Abraham.

Ishmael was indeed the first-born son of Abraham, but since he was born out of wedlock, many argued that the culture of the day would have prevented him from being first in line for the father's inheritance. 

Since Isaac was the first (legitimate) son born from Abraham's wife, that is the basis of the claim of the Jews that the land should rightly belong to them.
That and the fact that the Bible records that Abraham himself actually stated before he died that his inheritance would go to Isaac.

So here we are even today with the same members of the same family, many generations removed, still fighting over that same piece of real estate.  :shrug:

I'm not sure how that hatred of the Jews spread to other cultures, but that's where it all started.
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Quote from: Del. on October 30, 2023, 09:23 AMI've never fully understood the hatred of Jews.
The simple answer is everyone needs a scapegoat. They are convenient.

Historically, as Jews migrated/were forced off land/became enslaved, etc... wherever they settled they often took jobs/did work  that the local indigenous population didn't want to be bothered with. Over time (read generations) they excelled at those things often times eventually taking over certain sectors of industry or entire industries. When people or "a" people gain a monopoly be it by shrewd business tactics or maybe something a little more nefarious, that tends to draw ire and sows the seeds of hate.

Adolf Hitler was able to convince an entire nation that the Jews were the primary cause of their nation's woes after WWI.

I'm probably oversimplifying it but that's how I see it.
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Quote from: Jim at Gentex on October 30, 2023, 11:04 AMFor those who are unfamiliar, the history of the dispute between Arabs and Jews goes all the way back to Bible times.
Abraham was the father of the Arabs through his son Ishmael, and he was also the father of the Jews through his son Isaac.
(On a side note, it's sad that the Arabs and Jews are actually step-brothers who still don't get along even today...)


not step-brothers but half brothers
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mowens

I found this to be really interesting. I didn't really know the details of what happened when Israel was created in 1948.

A brief history of Gaza's centuries of war.
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Del.

It just amazes me the amount of people and Universities supporting Hamas and wishing death on the Jews.

And I still don't know why so much hate for the Jews   They really never say why

As a believer I wish God would just end this as the Bible has forewarned.

Seems everyone has chosen a side.


gcode

Quote from: Del. on November 07, 2023, 12:48 PMIt just amazes me the amount of people and Universities supporting Hamas and wishing death on the Jews.

Qatar has spent billions fermenting this hate in our universities over the past couple of decades.