Trump shot at rally

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Del.

#135
July 16, 2024, 05:59 AM
If you turn your head to the right and point your finger at top of your ear and turn your head back straight without moving your finger, the shot goes right above your ear into the brain. So fortunate.
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Jim at Gentex

#136
July 16, 2024, 06:04 AM
Quote from: Jeff on July 16, 2024, 05:58 AMI heard that too. And that was the way I was leaning because of common sense. But when there's conflicting info, I didn't want to say "this is true/that is true" etc...

Yep, that's why we need to consider the source.

I was listening to Dan Bongino's podcast over the weekend, and since he ACTUALLY protected several Presidents during his time in the SS, AND he still has close friends who are currently on the job, I don't think you could find a more credible source.

He said categorically that anyone who is saying the counter-snipers need permission to engage doesn't know what they are talking about, so given his background and personal experience, I will take his word for that.  :yes:
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RobertELee

#137
July 16, 2024, 06:12 AM
Quote from: Jim at Gentex on July 16, 2024, 05:54 AMNot true.
According to Dan Bongino, who was on the President's SS detail in the past, those counter-snipers on the detail DO NOT need permission to engage any target they deem to be a threat, like a man on a rooftop with a rifle who is not part of the security detail.  They have full discretion, especially when seconds count.

However those counter snipers were NOT SS, they were local police. So not 100% positive they have free reign to engage without permission or an active threat.
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#138
July 16, 2024, 06:19 AM
Quote from: RobertELee on July 16, 2024, 06:12 AMHowever those counter snipers were NOT SS, they were local police. So not 100% positive they have free reign to engage without permission or an active threat.

According to Bongino the rules of engagement are the same regardless if it is the feds, state police, or a local PD.

A threat is a threat, and in a fluid situation the counter-snipers can't waste precious seconds asking for permission to engage.  :no:
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Jeff

#139
July 16, 2024, 06:50 AM
Quote from: Newbeeee™ on July 16, 2024, 06:33 AMPosted yesterday by "WPXI-TV Pittsburgh Local News",
"Alleged Trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say...."

Yep, I posted in the other thread I believe that someone reported it 26 minutes before at 5:45pm.
This reeks of corruption the more information that comes to light.
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RobertELee

#140
July 16, 2024, 06:57 AM
Why was the shooter in a Blackrock video last year?

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Jim at Gentex

#141
July 16, 2024, 07:12 AM
Quote from: Jeff on July 16, 2024, 06:50 AMYep, I posted in the other thread I believe that someone reported it 26 minutes before at 5:45pm.
This reeks of corruption the more information that comes to light.


Again, referring to Bongino's podcast, he said his sources told him this Crooks kid was on their watch list, and that they had eyes on him early on but they lost sight of him at some point.  If that is the case, Trump should have never set foot outside of the limo until all known threats were accounted for.

That is unless somebody WANTED Trump to walk into the line of fire, which is almost impossible to deny at this point.

How can THEE CLOSEST rooftop outside of the venue itself NOT be secured by anyone, whether it be SS, state, or local PD?
SS is pointing the finger at the local PD, but that is 100% bullshit.

They are ultimately responsible for ALL of the security protocols, even if they hand over certain areas to state or local PD's.

btw...for those on social media who were expressing sadness that the shooter missed, you are entitled to your opinion.

However, if you believe that assassinating a political rival rather than beating him head-to-head at the polls is acceptable, then I can only conclude that YOU are a far greater "threat to democracy" than Donald Trump could ever be.  :yes: 
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Del.

#142
July 16, 2024, 07:15 AM
What is Black Rock?

YoDoug

#143
July 16, 2024, 07:19 AM
Quote from: Newbeeee™ on July 16, 2024, 06:59 AMThat they've since very quickly, wiped off their socials....

Blackrock is an evil company, no question. however any company would take down their ad/media in that case.

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YoDoug

#144
July 16, 2024, 07:22 AM
Quote from: Del. on July 16, 2024, 07:15 AMWhat is Black Rock?

Blackrock is an investment group. The largest in the world. They control trillions in assets. They own or have a major controlling stake in most of big pharma, big food companies, and energy companies. Many ex Blackrock exec's and upper management are now part of Biden's admin. Blackrock leadership has openly admitted they want to eliminate single family home ownership. They want to eliminate the middleclass. They want everybody in the world essentially renting their lives from them.
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Jeff

#145
July 16, 2024, 07:27 AM
Quote from: YoDoug on July 16, 2024, 07:22 AMThey want to eliminate the middleclass.

Well they're doing a damn good job of that so far.

RobertELee

#146
July 16, 2024, 07:28 AM
Quote from: Newbeeee™ on July 16, 2024, 06:59 AMThat they've since very quickly, wiped off their socials....

Thankfully some saved it beforehand hand

Del.

#147
July 16, 2024, 07:28 AM
Quote from: YoDoug on July 16, 2024, 07:22 AMBlackrock is an investment group. The largest in the world. They control trillions in assets. They own or have a major controlling stake in most of big pharma, big food companies, and energy companies. Many ex Blackrock exec's and upper management are now part of Biden's admin. Blackrock leadership has openly admitted they want to eliminate single family home ownership. They want to eliminate the middleclass. They want everybody in the world essentially renting their lives from them.

How did the guy get in one of their commercials ?

Jeff

#148
July 16, 2024, 07:32 AM
Quote from: Del. on July 16, 2024, 07:28 AMHow did the guy get in one of their commercials ?
A company that has literally trillions at their disposal can pretty much get whatever they want, however they want.
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RobertELee

#149
July 16, 2024, 07:33 AM
Quote from: Newbeeee™ on July 16, 2024, 07:25 AMThe vid was released the same day of the shooting....I'm amazed how people can find some stuff so fast.
Unless the info "was released"....:shrug:

In the bottom left hand of the screenshot I posted it says "May 16" was when it was posted to YouTube. And I'm sure the others in the video with the shooter were like, "wait, I know him, and he was in this video with me" then tell people and it goes viral.
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