Thoughts on Trumps NABJ interview?

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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: JParis on August 01, 2024, 04:39 AMand if you choose to believe "that" polling, do you also support the polling that suddenly shows him losing?

Just curious if we're being selective on which polls we choose to believe/disbelieve

True, the polls can say anything you want if you look hard enough.

Political views aside, Rasmussen has proven historically to be one of the most accurate polls when comparing their pre-election data and predictions to actual outcomes.

Last time I checked Rasmussen, Trump was hovering around 28% of the potential black vote, which would be around 2x what he got in 2020.

I have always maintained that the only poll that counts is the actual election, but if these numbers are even close to being accurate they are very telling.  :yes:
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neurosis

Quote from: Del. on August 01, 2024, 07:24 AMHe doesn't take any shit and I love that about him.

There is a difference between not taking any shit and just being obnoxious.  He could have put them in their place without making himself look bad.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

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If you watch the video when he said "first she was Indian and then she was black'
a good portion to crowed were laughing...I don't know if he meant it as a joke or not,
but it was definitely not the time and place for that statement.

The truth is, he never should have been there.. he was never ever going to get a fair shake
in that setting.
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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: YoDoug on August 01, 2024, 06:59 AMBiden was "elected" because about 15 counties in 7 states committed fraud.

The last sentence of my post was going to be "And please don't start with the stolen election BS, because it only makes one look like an idiot," but I deleted it. You are certainly welcome to lean on the election fraud fantasy if, by chance, your candidate loses in 2024, but it isn't a good look. 

Biden was elected because people were sick of Trump, and anything else was better. Or to put it another way, Biden didn't win in 2020, but Trump certainly lost.

Jim at Gentex

Quote from: gcode on August 01, 2024, 07:30 AMIf you watch the video when he said "first she was Indian and then she was black'
a good portion to crowed were laughing...I don't know if he meant it as a joke or note,
but it was definitely not the time and place for that statement.

The truth is, he never should have been there.. he was never ever going to get a fair shake
in that setting.

And I would say 'HELL NO' he didn't have a list of questions before walking in.
This was to be an ambush, pure and simple.

To use a baseball analogy, she went right to the high inside fastball aimed at the head, and Trump ducked it and charged the mound.  :rofl:

But just the fact that he is willing to walk into a clearly hostile environment like that shows that he is not afraid to take on his critics face-to-face.  :yes:
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gcode

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Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on August 01, 2024, 07:33 AMYou are certainly welcome to lean on the election fraud fantasy

It took 50 years for it to be acknowledged that election fraud in Chicago put Kennedy over the top.
I doubt any of us will be alive to see it, but at some future date, Biden's 2020 "victory"
will be recognized as a fraudulent election.

and if you think that makes me look like an idiot, you've got me confused with someone who gives a fuck what you think
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YoDoug

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on August 01, 2024, 07:33 AMThe last sentence of my post was going to be "And please don't start with the stolen election BS, because it only makes one look like an idiot," but I deleted it. You are certainly welcome to lean on the election fraud fantasy if, by chance, your candidate loses in 2024, but it isn't a good look. 

Biden was elected because people were sick of Trump, and anything else was better. Or to put it another way, Biden didn't win in 2020, but Trump certainly lost.

Your "I'm smarter than you" attitude and pseudo-intellectual statements may work on the millennial machine operators at your shop but we ain't falling for it. FYI
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mowens

True or not, attacking Harris' racial identity claims was stupid. The only people who thought it was a good idea were the people who were already a lock for him, and it alienated a lot of undecided people.
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Del.

She says she's Indian. Is she both black and Indian?  I really don't care.

Smit

Quote from: Jim at Gentex on August 01, 2024, 07:38 AMBut just the fact that he is willing to walk into a clearly hostile environment like that shows that he is not afraid to take on his critics face-to-face.  :yes:

I've gotta think it's more a reflection on his judgment than any kind of bravery.

Just sayin.  :whistle:
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CNCAppsJames

Quote from: Del. on August 01, 2024, 06:31 AMTrump never gets a fair shake. When he was elected in 2016 the very first thing he did was invite black leaders and personalities to the White House to talk about how to improve black citizens lives. They all talked about how he listened to them and they were impressed by his concerns. They got hammered by the media and other black leaders for being uncle toms.
The irksome thing is during Trump's 1st assault on Democracy :rolleyes: Term, the unemployment differential between the Black Population and White Population shrank. The number of black owned businesses increased. I personally think it's because he cared and didn't take for granted one single black vote. He KNEW what that vote for him meant. The ONLY reason the numbers are good for the incontinent octogenarian is because it was one of the few Trump era things he left alone.

People can villiify Trump all they want. He's no saint that's for sure. He's rude. He's crass. He talks too much. He listens too little. They can say all he cares about is himself, but the reality is he is the ONLY POTUS to be worth LESS money when he left office than when he entered since Harry Truman... he's worth less by about 25%... and he's going to try again. So if that is one's idea of "he's just a selfish bastard", then I'd say the world needs more selfish bastards.

For comparisons;
Barry Hussein = +53.8x
Shrub = +2x
Clinton = +185.76x
Bush I = +5.75x
Ronnie = +1.45x
Peanut Boy = 4.34
Ford = +5x
Nixon = +7.5x
The Racist = +1.42x
Truman = Net worth never broke $1m (even adjusted for inflation)

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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: gcode on August 01, 2024, 07:40 AMIt took 50 years for it to be acknowledged that election fraud in Chicago put Kennedy over the top.
I doubt any of us will be alive to see it, but at some future date, Biden's 2020 "victory"
will be recognized as a fraudulent election.

and if you think that makes me look like an idiot, you've got me confused with someone who gives a fuck what you think

Oh, I gotcha. Now the mantra is "none of us will be alive to see it, but just you wait, we'll be right, dammit!" Funny, just a few weeks ago the BS that Trumtard election fraud conspiracy theorists were parroting was that "the courts never really looked at the evidence, so it was never really given its day in court."

Look, G, I've been following this BS since the day after the election, and am aware of every talking point you were ever issued, and will probably be one step ahead of your next marching order. It's no skin off my back if you want to take this crap to your grave, or if you give a shit what me or other rational, fact observant people think. Enjoy your fantasy. Just understand that you are now, and always will be, wrong.
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Del.

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on August 01, 2024, 07:50 AMOh, I gotcha. Now the mantra is "none of us will be alive to see it, but just you wait, we'll be right, dammit!" Funny, just a few weeks ago the BS that Trumtard election fraud conspiracy theorists were parroting was that "the courts never really looked at the evidence, so it was never really given its day in court."

Look, G, I've been following this BS since the day after the election, and am aware of every talking point you were ever issued, and will probably be one step ahead of your next marching order. It's no skin off my back if you want to take this crap to your grave, or if you give a shit what me or other rational, fact observant people think. Enjoy your fantasy. Just understand that you are now, and always will be, wrong.

And remember Jan 6. 😝
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Jim at Gentex

Quote from: Del. on August 01, 2024, 07:43 AMShe says she's Indian. Is she both black and Indian?  I really don't care.

Nobody does.
But when you play identity politics so much it may come back to haunt you.

I won't vote for her because of the failed policies of the Biden / Harris administration over the last 3 1/2 years, not because of her gender, race, or ethnicity. :no:
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CNCAppsJames

Quote from: Del. on August 01, 2024, 07:43 AMShe says she's Indian. Is she both black and Indian?  I really don't care.
Heel-Up Harris' mom is Indian (dot not feather) born and her father was born in Jamaica and is an "Afro-Jamaican" (Jamaicans primarily of African descent).
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