Tucker Carlson actually having a worthwhile conversation?

[YoDoug]

Carnivore is verbotten for political reasons, so there is no funding

LOL, there are meat industry orgs with millions of dollars at their disposal for lobbying and funding studies.

[mkd]

LOL, there are meat industry orgs with millions of dollars at their disposal for lobbying and funding studies.

Private group money looking for ROI vs Gov't money....right

[mkd]

LOL, there are meat industry orgs with millions of dollars at their disposal for lobbying and funding studies.

just curious, why do you think 'TED Talks' banned Mikala Peterson's carnivore talk? It's the only diet that allowed her to be healthy.
 it's something cultural here in US.
Remote carnivore tribes that don't cancer or diabetes. ... but plants are the only way. It just sounds nuts, to me, in my opinion.

[neurosis]

Mikala Peterson'

I had to look up who that was. Yikes.  She had it rough.

[YoDoug]

Private group money looking for ROI vs Gov't money....right

It's private money for sure. However, the line between Gov and private business gets mighty blurred at the USDA/FDA.

[mkd]

I had to look up who that was. Yikes.  She had it rough.

veggies can do that. Meat: never

[YoDoug]

just curious, why do you think 'TED Talks' banned Mikala Peterson's carnivore talk? It's the only diet that allowed her to be healthy.
 it's something cultural here in US.
Remote carnivore tribes that don't cancer or diabetes. ... but plants are the only way. It just sounds nuts, to me, in my opinion.

I don't know why they specifically banned her talk. There is a lot of internet arguing over that. I do know two things, first her talk was purely anecdotal. She listed no scientific basis to back it up, only that she feels good. Second, she has admitted to an autoimmune condition which makes her anecdotal opinion very personally specific.

[mkd]

I don't know why they specifically banned her talk. There is a lot of internet arguing over that. I do know two things, first her talk was purely anecdotal. She listed no scientific basis to back it up, only that she feels good. Second, she has admitted to an autoimmune condition which makes her anecdotal opinion very personally specific.

yeah, there's probably some gray in the story. I guess leaky guy is a thing. Probably all the healthy sticks and branches poking the bowls. lol

[beej]

veggies can do that. Meat: never

unless someone has alpha-gal syndrome. That's the tick born meat allergy.

Different people have different conditions that affect you one way or the other. My daughter has some kind of allergic reaction to store bought eggs. But she can eat the eggs from my chickens with no problem. That might make you think all store bought, big AG, food is bad, but then she also has an allergic reaction to local honey. But she can eat processed honey from the store. She is allergic to some local plant that always seems to end up in local honey.

arguing for a one size fits all diet seems a little silly to me.

[mkd]

peanut allergies are often (always?) pesticide related

[mkd]

unless someone has alpha-gal syndrome. That's the tick born meat allergy.

Different people have different conditions that affect you one way or the other. My daughter has some kind of allergic reaction to store bought eggs. But she can eat the eggs from my chickens with no problem. That might make you think all store bought, big AG, food is bad, but then she also has an allergic reaction to local honey. But she can eat processed honey from the store. She is allergic to some local plant that always seems to end up in local honey.

arguing for a one size fits all diet seems a little silly to me.

everyday is school day.

[YoDoug]

Remote carnivore tribes that don't cancer or diabetes. ... but plants are the only way. It just sounds nuts, to me, in my opinion.

Those so called "remote carnivore tribes" when put under real scrutiny are not meat only. When scientist, not carnie doctors, examine them they find they do eat plants, roots, nuts, etc. Hunting is hard. Especially with primitive tools. Humans are slow, our smell sucks, our long distance sight sucks, our reaction times suck, etc. when compared to the prey we hunt and other natural predators. On the other hand, we are physiologically designed to walk great distances. Our color vision is highly suited to identifying different fruits, plants, etc. This suits to gathering plant sourced foods.

[beej]

Those so called "remote carnivore tribes" when put under real scrutiny are not meat only. When scientist, not carnie doctors, examine them they find they do eat plants, roots, nuts, etc. Hunting is hard. Especially with primitive tools. Humans are slow, our smell sucks, our long distance sight sucks, our reaction times suck, etc. when compared to the prey we hunt and other natural predators. On the other hand, we are physiologically designed to walk great distances. Our color vision is highly suited to identifying different fruits, plants, etc. This suits to gathering plant sourced foods.

and yet, our eyes are to the front of our heads like a predator rather than to the sides like a forager.

[Jeff]

peanut allergies are often (always?) pesticide related

Everything I read says otherwise, except in rare cases.

Generally speaking no. Although it is possible, in rare cases, to be allergic to certain pesticides, an allergic reaction to fruits or vegetables is generally triggered by an overreaction of the immune system to a protein found in a given food.

https://foodallergycanada.ca/mythbuster-true-pesticides-chemicals-can-trigger-allergic-reactions/

[YoDoug]

unless someone has alpha-gal syndrome. That's the tick born meat allergy.

Different people have different conditions that affect you one way or the other. My daughter has some kind of allergic reaction to store bought eggs. But she can eat the eggs from my chickens with no problem. That might make you think all store bought, big AG, food is bad, but then she also has an allergic reaction to local honey. But she can eat processed honey from the store. She is allergic to some local plant that always seems to end up in local honey.

arguing for a one size fits all diet seems a little silly to me.

I will agree with this to an extent. I watched a great interview with a leading lipidologist. He said when it comes to health and nutrition his studies have led him to see a bell curve. He said 80 percent of people need to keep dietary cholesterol intake to a minimum or they will develop CAD and other issues. 10 percent can eat all the cholesterol they wnat and never have an issue. The other 10 percent can eliminate all dietary cholesterol and still have issues. I think this can extend to other chronic illness and diet. There are most certainly a small percentage of people on both ends of the health spectrum but the majority of people see the same issues from the same dietary intake.