Modern Science, more and more points to existence of God

[Jeff]

Is this a stolen election thread? Because there's as much proof for that than there is for the existence of a god.

Right..
Like a court can't be set up to swing a verdict in a certain direction. 

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Right..
Like a court can't be set up to swing a verdict in a certain direction. 

Even all of the courts?

Nvmd. This is a thread about whether or not there is a god. Quit changing the subject.

[Jeff]

Quit changing the subject.

lol.
 

[mowens]

These are just my opinions.

Some recovery programs talk about a God of our understanding. I spent a lot of time going through a bunch of mental gymnastics trying to figure just what that means. At the end of it all, I came to the conclusion that the only thing I understand is that God exists and I can rely on him. I base this off of my own experiences. Anything beyond that is, to me, irrelevant speculation.

God is infinite, all encompassing. To think, as humans, we can know more than that is arrogant. Arguing about scientific proof of God is a waste of time.

[beej]

Arguing about scientific proof of God is a waste of time.

It may have been at one time, but when the New Athiest movement started using science to proselytize their beliefs, it became important for the church to use science if they wanted to have an honest discussion about it. And as our knowledge of the universe increases, it becomes more important to study the morality of what we should and shouldn't do with that knowledge.

[mkd]

I believe in a God and I believe in Atheism.

[Smit]

God is infinite, all encompassing. To think, as humans, we can know more than that is arrogant. Arguing about scientific proof of God is a waste of time.

I agree with Mowens.

We had that discussion in a bible class I took in college. It was a religious based college so it was required. But very interesting also.

Regardless, we had one discussion in particular I recall. As a class we discussed what we thought God was like and how we could relate to him.

What Mowens said was basically the same thoughts our professor shared with us.

God would be so far beyond our understanding it would be arrogant to think we are capable of comprehending him(/her/choose a pronoun that pleases you).

Somebody who claims they know more probably has an agenda they want to push.

IMHO, science can not prove God. Neither can it disprove God, because who can say with certainty that what science finds isn't the vessel used by God to further his purposes.

Have fun with this, but IMHO, everybody should be comfortable in their own beliefs without trying to "prove" anything to anyone.

[Del.]

I agree with Mowens.

We had that discussion in a bible class I took in college. It was a religious based college so it was required. But very interesting also.

Regardless, we had one discussion in particular I recall. As a class we discussed what we thought God was like and how we could relate to him.

What Mowens said was basically the same thoughts our professor shared with us.

God would be so far beyond our understanding it would be arrogant to think we are capable of comprehending him(/her/choose a pronoun that pleases you).

Somebody who claims they know more probably has an agenda they want to push.

IMHO, science can not prove God. Neither can it disprove God, because who can say with certainty that what science finds isn't the vessel used by God to further his purposes.

Have fun with this, but IMHO, everybody should be comfortable in their own beliefs without trying to "prove" anything to anyone.

Good post Larry.

[Flycut]

Either way...
You've got a bunch of people who don't know, claiming to know.

[Newbeeee™]

If you tell him to "Follow The Science"

$€i£n€£ Fissy....

[beej]

Either way...
You've got a bunch of people who don't know, claiming to know.

I guess we should just go back to talking politics 

[Incogneeto]

I guess we should just go back to talking politics 

If there is a God.





He wants Trump to Win.        

[Smit]

I guess we should just go back to talking politics 

Fair enough. Let's go!

Creator gods....well, that can be complicated. Here's a short list, there are so many gods for so many religions.

First, are we talking about Lord Brahma, Vishnu, Atum, Ra, Ahura Mazda, Phanes, Ülgen, or Coatlicue?

Do you want to pick one or add another one?

If the scientific evidence points to one over another one (or bunch of other ones) I'd be interested in seeing that evidence.

[mowens]

My thoughts on that are, not that they mean anything; Christians believe God comes in 3 forms. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Going back to the idea of an infinite God; if he can take 3 forms for us who is to say that he can't take any form he wants? An infinite number, even. In the time of Jesus, he and his disciples only reached a fraction of the world's population. I don't see why God couldn't reach the rest of the people in a way that would be most meaningful to them.

[Smit]

My thoughts on that are, not that they mean anything; Christians believe God comes in 3 forms. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Going back to the idea of an infinite God; if he can take 3 forms for us who is to say that he can't take any form he wants? An infinite number, even. In the time of Jesus, he and his disciples only reached a fraction of the world's population. I don't see why God couldn't reach the rest of the people in a way that would be most meaningful to them.

Good answer.