Covid Vaccine

[TylerBeer]

...100% Experimental? It took over a year, and the attention of the entire world.  You're an idiot

In fairness, there are exactly ZERO mRNA vaccines that have ever been approved by the FDA. None. That kinda makes them pretty experimental.

LaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLa no one is listening...

The approval process is the experimentation
In fairness to say %100 experimental is %100 wrong

[rdshear]

Did you watch the video I linked to? It is just one of many that show that we were evolved from plant eaters. Besides teeth and jaw type, there is the gut length, gut biome, mouth/gut enzymes, etc. There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest plant material, not meat. Here is a study showing that more increased meat consumption leads to bad chemicals in the digestive system and higher risk of IBS and possibly cancer. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-a ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext. Yay evolution, we evolved to get cancer and IBS/Crohn's from eating meat. I have yet to see a study showing we get cancer or bowel diseases from eating more veggies.

Plus if you want to get all biblical, Genesis 1:29 states in Gods creation process he gave us the "Herb bearing seed..." for meat.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." Genesis 1:29 KJV

[TylerBeer]

[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=11359 time=1621453147 user_id=57]

LOL, we have the same teeth and jaw structure as other plant eaters. Our teeth close flat, on the other hand wolves, lions, etc have teeth that overlap and shear meat off.

LOL.

We have plant teeth in the back and meat teeth in the front.  I don't know about you, but my front teeth overlap about 30% when fully closed.  Most teeth I've seen do this.

Did you watch the video I linked to? It is just one of many that show that we were evolved from plant eaters. Besides teeth and jaw type, there is the gut length, gut biome, mouth/gut enzymes, etc. There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest plant material, not meat. Here is a study showing that more increased meat consumption leads to bad chemicals in the digestive system and higher risk of IBS and possibly cancer. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-a ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext. Yay evolution, we evolved to get cancer and IBS/Crohn's from eating meat. I have yet to see a study showing we get cancer or bowel diseases from eating more veggies.
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Whoa now, don't be bringing evolution science into this

[YoDoug]

Did you watch the video I linked to? It is just one of many that show that we were evolved from plant eaters. Besides teeth and jaw type, there is the gut length, gut biome, mouth/gut enzymes, etc. There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest plant material, not meat. Here is a study showing that more increased meat consumption leads to bad chemicals in the digestive system and higher risk of IBS and possibly cancer. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-a ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext. Yay evolution, we evolved to get cancer and IBS/Crohn's from eating meat. I have yet to see a study showing we get cancer or bowel diseases from eating more veggies.

Plus if you want to get all biblical, Genesis 1:29 states in Gods creation process he gave us the "Herb bearing seed..." for meat.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." Genesis 1:29 KJV

Oh no you didn't! The last time I brought up this verse it cause quite a response from the Ned Flander's on eMC.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

Did you watch the video I linked to? It is just one of many that show that we were evolved from plant eaters. Besides teeth and jaw type, there is the gut length, gut biome, mouth/gut enzymes, etc. There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest plant material, not meat. Here is a study showing that more increased meat consumption leads to bad chemicals in the digestive system and higher risk of IBS and possibly cancer. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-a ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext. Yay evolution, we evolved to get cancer and IBS/Crohn's from eating meat. I have yet to see a study showing we get cancer or bowel diseases from eating more veggies.

Plus if you want to get all biblical, Genesis 1:29 states in Gods creation process he gave us the "Herb bearing seed..." for meat.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." Genesis 1:29 KJV

lol. Apparently, God tells us we can eat both!

Genesis 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Unless there are plants that move I'm unaware of?  

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=11359 time=1621453147 user_id=57]


LOL.

We have plant teeth in the back and meat teeth in the front.  I don't know about you, but my front teeth overlap about 30% when fully closed.  Most teeth I've seen do this.

Did you watch the video I linked to? It is just one of many that show that we were evolved from plant eaters. Besides teeth and jaw type, there is the gut length, gut biome, mouth/gut enzymes, etc. There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest plant material, not meat. Here is a study showing that more increased meat consumption leads to bad chemicals in the digestive system and higher risk of IBS and possibly cancer. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-a ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext. Yay evolution, we evolved to get cancer and IBS/Crohn's from eating meat. I have yet to see a study showing we get cancer or bowel diseases from eating more veggies.

Whoa now, don't be bringing evolution science into this
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God didn't created vegetation. It evolved. Says it in Genesis "and the Earth brought forth vegetation"

[YoDoug]

Did you watch the video I linked to? It is just one of many that show that we were evolved from plant eaters. Besides teeth and jaw type, there is the gut length, gut biome, mouth/gut enzymes, etc. There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest plant material, not meat. Here is a study showing that more increased meat consumption leads to bad chemicals in the digestive system and higher risk of IBS and possibly cancer. https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-a ... m=fulltext">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/32/10/2094/4692105?redirectedFrom=fulltext. Yay evolution, we evolved to get cancer and IBS/Crohn's from eating meat. I have yet to see a study showing we get cancer or bowel diseases from eating more veggies.

Plus if you want to get all biblical, Genesis 1:29 states in Gods creation process he gave us the "Herb bearing seed..." for meat.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." Genesis 1:29 KJV

lol. Apparently, God tells us we can eat both!

Genesis 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Unless there are plants that move I'm unaware of?  

Here we go again. In Gen 1:29 God gave instructions on what to eat based on his creation. In Gen 9:3 sin had entered into the world and God allowed changes to human diet because of sin entering. It was not how he created it, but because of the fall he allowed for meat to be eaten. However it was not how he designed man according to Gen 1:29, or he would have said to eat the animal in the garden.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

Jesus ate fish (and lamb). Did he sin?

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

Jesus ate fish (and lamb). Did he sin?

[YoDoug]

Jesus ate fish (and lamb). Did he sin?

I didn't say eating meat was a sin. I said it was not how God originally created man to eat. There is a difference.

Also, Jesus fed a lot of people and he was at many meals in the bible, but it does not once confirm that he actually ate the meat/fish everyone else was eating. I really don't think it is an issue to worry about, but if you want to get all technical about it.

[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

(Good points, Doug, I admit)

[Matthew Hajicek]

There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest ANY FOOD WE CAN FIND.

Fiss.

[thad]

Unless there are plants that move I'm unaware of?  

I believe he was referring to the Venus Flytrap.

[YoDoug]

[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=11380 time=1621463999 user_id=57]

There is a whole host of info showing our systems are made to eat and digest ANY FOOD WE CAN FIND.

Fiss.
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So, if evolution favors the highest adaptability and strongest survival, consider this. Meat and eggs contain choline and L-carnitine. There are gut bacteria that feed off of these. The more you eat, the more of those bacteria you have. When the bacteria consume these they produce TMA. Your liver takes the TMA and turns it into TMAO. TMAO travels through your blood stream and causes atherosclerosis of the arteries. This is the hardening of the artery walls. When combined with the cholesterol in animal products it starts to build up. The two of the three most prescribed drugs in the US are for these chronic illnesses. Hardly seems like evolution would favor this result as the strongest and best adaptation. So yes, you can digest animal products, but given the negative byproducts and health consequences that come from it, I would hardly say we are designed to eat and digest any food we can find.

[Smit]

We've pretty much come full circle now.  :huh: