UHC Ceo assassinated

[Smit]

It's pretty sad so many people feel this way and we, as a nation, can do nothing about it.

Torrent of Hate for Health Insurance Industry Follows C.E.O.'s Killing

Excerpt:

The fatal shooting on Wednesday of a top UnitedHealthcare executive, Brian Thompson, on a Manhattan sidewalk has unleashed a torrent of morbid glee from patients and others who say they have had negative experiences with health insurance companies at some of the hardest times of their lives.

"Thoughts and deductibles to the family," read one comment underneath a video of the shooting posted online by CNN. "Unfortunately my condolences are out-of-network."

On TikTok, one user wrote, "I'm an ER nurse and the things I've seen dying patients get denied for by insurance makes me physically sick. I just can't feel sympathy for him because of all of those patients and their families."

The dark commentary after the death of Mr. Thompson, a 50-year-old insurance executive from Maple Grove, Minn., who was also a husband and a father of two children, highlighted the anger and frustration over the state of health care in America, where those with private insurance often find themselves in Kafka-esque tangles while seeking reimbursement for medical treatment and are often denied.

Messages that law enforcement officials say were found on bullet casings at the scene of the shooting in front of a Midtown hotel — "delay" and "deny" — are two words familiar to many Americans who have interacted with insurance companies for almost anything other than routine doctor visits.

[Smit]

It's important to be accurate, you could at least make an effort to get it right 

Oh I got it right. See below for the important part

dumbass

Now go yell at some clouds and let Robert and I return to our respectful dialogue.

[Del.]

Wow, that was deep and meaningful. Thanks for your input.

At least it was different than those dumbass rose colored glasses comments. 

I wish I could post a pic of the Japanese sailor with the coke bottle glasses from Gilligans island.

[beej]

It's pretty sad so many people feel this way and we, as a nation, can do nothing about it.

I agree. I'm just not sure what you would do about it. You could exchange private insurance jerks for public insurance jerks. I don't really see that as a fix. If I had my way, I would make insurance as a whole illegal. I think it drives prices higher and hurts both the common man as well as the medical industry. At the same time, I see the potential for disaster without the safety net. So I don't know. I wish something could be done. I sure think that making insurance mandatory was a bad way to go.

[YoDoug]

I wish I could post a pic of the Japanese sailor with the coke bottle glasses from Gilligans island.

[Del.]

Very good rooking.

[CNCAppsJames]

RAYCIS!!!!

#Reported

[Smit]

I agree. I'm just not sure what you would do about it. You could exchange private insurance jerks for public insurance jerks. I don't really see that as a fix. If I had my way, I would make insurance as a whole illegal. I think it drives prices higher and hurts both the common man as well as the medical industry. At the same time, I see the potential for disaster without the safety net. So I don't know. I wish something could be done. I sure think that making insurance mandatory was a bad way to go.

I think many decades ago when medical insurance was first implemented it was a very good thing. But like just about everything else now, profit is the main goal of insurance companies. Whatever they have to do to make profits is on the table. Hospitals too.

I have great medical coverage, and I don't have to go thru an insurance company. It's too bad everybody has to wait until they reach 65 to have access to it.

One thing to know, if you choose Medicare advantage (Part C) you will still have to go thru an insurance company so keep that in mind as you get older.

[Newbeeee™]

It's important to be accurate, you could at least make an effort to get it right 

Once an Engineer, ALWAYS an Engineer.
#AllImportantDetail

[MIL-TFP-41]

And then there was this happening today....It got reversed. One CEO was quoted as saying "They can't shoot us if they are asleep"

According to the original policy statement, Anthem had said it would pay only for anesthesia treatments for the length of time that a procedure or surgery is estimated to require based on the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Service's physician work time values. The insurer noted that claims for anesthesia "above the established number of minutes will be denied."

In an email to CBS News on Thursday, Anthem said it was backing away from the policy, and added there had been "widespread misinformation about an update to our anesthesia policy."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-coverage-policy/

[CNCAppsJames]

And then there was this happening today....It got reversed. One CEO was quoted as saying "They can't shoot us if they are asleep"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-coverage-policy/

While that may be true, they can't stop anyone from hunting them down and snuffing them out for the swine they are. Not that I'm advocating that (because I am not).

It just seems to me like at least a minuscule shred of contrition that the current system as it is constituted, they they created is causing individuals some grief. Acknowledging that could lower the temperature. Then again, people are steaming hot at the current state of health insurance, there may be nothing they can say that will save their hides.

[Del.]

I think many decades ago when medical insurance was first implemented it was a very good thing. But like just about everything else now, profit is the main goal of insurance companies. Whatever they have to do to make profits is on the table. Hospitals too.

I have great medical coverage, and I don't have to go thru an insurance company. It's too bad everybody has to wait until they reach 65 to have access to it.

One thing to know, if you choose Medicare advantage (Part C) you will still have to go thru an insurance company so keep that in mind as you get older.

Spot on.

[BrianP.]

But we fixed the health care system. The even named it Affordable Care so it must be so.

I remember years ago when they were first starting this. They said it was modeled after "Romney Care" we have in Massachusetts. Some on here thought it was great. We all were going to save money. $2,500 average savings. I laughed. I said if it was modelled after Massachusetts the only thing it would do was give the rest of the country the same pain we get here. It does nothing to control costs. Matter of fact if you have private insurance it has raised everything to cover those lower payouts made by the government. The ACA already limits how much insurance companies can keep to run and profit off their business. More government control should straighten it out. When you have millions getting " free" health care someone else has to pick up the tab.

[ghuns]

The ACA removed the insurance companies ability to manage risk. At least in the way they used to.

The management of risk was fundamental in allowing insurers to be profitable. If you take that away, they will find other ways to be profitable. Raising premiums, raising out of pocket and deductibles, reducing coverage, etc.

[neurosis]

The ACA removed the insurance companies ability to manage risk. At least in the way they used to.

The management of risk was fundamental in allowing insurers to be profitable. If you take that away, they will find other ways to be profitable. Raising premiums, raising out of pocket and deductibles, reducing coverage, etc.

"Risk management" was a key strategy to claim denial and claims were often denied for horse shit nuanced justifications.

Not that what we have right now is any better.