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neurosis

#30
January 21, 2025, 06:25 AM
Quote from: beej on January 21, 2025, 06:21 AMno, I haven't. I'm not sure if the tariffs are good or bad to be honest. It's the idea that if someone agrees with Trump they are denigrated into "Yes Men" that I was taking issue with.

Well, if you can find me anyone who thinks that 25% tariffs across the board (he said as high as 60% on China at some point) who isn't in Trumps pocket, I'll concede my opinion.  :lol:


QuoteI just don't recall anybody using that term with Obama or Clinton or Bush.


I don't know about during Clinton or Bush admins, but I've seen people called that and a lot worse during Obama's administration.  :lol:
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

neurosis

#31
January 21, 2025, 06:35 AM
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

beej

#32
January 21, 2025, 06:43 AM
Quote from: neurosis on January 21, 2025, 06:35 AMOh shit. You found one.  :lol: 

The other link isn't about sweeping tariffs.


Unions have been pushing for these for years. I'm on the fence. (aww dang did I just say that?) I would like to bring manufacturing back to the US if for no other reason than the fear of supply chain issues like we just saw recently. On the other hand I often find myself when seeing the prices of something made in the US along side something from China, I have thought, uh, checkbook is low today, might just have to by china this time.
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neurosis

#33
January 21, 2025, 06:51 AM
Quote from: beej on January 21, 2025, 06:43 AMUnions have been pushing for these for years. I'm on the fence. (aww dang did I just say that?) I would like to bring manufacturing back to the US if for no other reason than the fear of supply chain issues like we just saw recently. On the other hand I often find myself when seeing the prices of something made in the US along side something from China, I have thought, uh, checkbook is low today, might just have to by china this time.

If during Trumps first presidency, the tariffs he imposed had the intended outcomes I would probably be more open to the idea.  Everything I've read say's that they didn't (could just by my sources although they are libertarian) so the projections are that the new tariffs won't either. I'm not an economist so as Jeff say's, I'm just parroting what I read somewhere else.  :lol:

After several years of high inflation, the last thing US consumers need is another wave of inflated prices.  :(
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Jim at Gentex

#34
January 21, 2025, 07:11 AM
Tariffs, or the mere THREAT of tariffs, are a good bargaining tool, and Trump realizes that.

At the very least, they can encourage other countries to consider the ramifications of having tariffs as part of the cost of doing business, and set their prices accordingly.

They can also encourage Americans to buy American on a more level playing field, which would help to stimulate our own economy rather than the economies of other countries.

I don't favor sweeping across-the-board tariffs either, but if used properly and selectively they can have a net positive effect.  :yes:
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RobertELee

#35
January 21, 2025, 07:44 AM
The left seems to forget this country was built on tariffs. We had up to 60% tariffs before 1942. Historians attribute the rise of Americas power to them.

mkd

#36
January 21, 2025, 02:36 PM
Quote from: Jim at Gentex on January 21, 2025, 07:11 AMTariffs, or the mere THREAT of tariffs, are a good bargaining tool, and Trump realizes that.

At the very least, they can encourage other countries to consider the ramifications of having tariffs as part of the cost of doing business, and set their prices accordingly.

They can also encourage Americans to buy American on a more level playing field, which would help to stimulate our own economy rather than the economies of other countries.

I don't favor sweeping across-the-board tariffs either, but if used properly and selectively they can have a net positive effect.  :yes:
They can even get a certain fascist of the north to resign.
 Buh bye Fidel JR.
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Jeff

#37
January 22, 2025, 04:55 AM
Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on January 21, 2025, 05:46 AMevidence and facts

Fact = You have no idea what those words mean
Evidence = your replies here on this forum
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Tim Johnson

#38
January 22, 2025, 09:20 AM
Quote from: RobertELee on January 21, 2025, 07:44 AMThe left seems to forget this country was built on tariffs. We had up to 60% tariffs before 1942. Historians attribute the rise of Americas power to them.
It's an easy fix for the countries to not have tariffs for their products. All they have to do is manufacture their products in the USA.
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mkd

#39
January 22, 2025, 09:24 AM
Quote from: Tim Johnson on January 22, 2025, 09:20 AMIt's an easy fix for the countries to not have tariffs for their products. All they have to do is manufacture their products in the USA.
BOOM💥

Smit

#40
January 22, 2025, 09:29 AM
Quote from: Tim Johnson on January 22, 2025, 09:20 AMIt's an easy fix for the countries to not have tariffs for their products. All they have to do is manufacture their products in the USA.

Well there you go. It's just that fucken easy.  :hrhr:
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mkd

#41
January 22, 2025, 09:31 AM
Quote from: Smit on January 22, 2025, 09:29 AMWell there you go. It's just that fucken easy.  :hrhr:
Yep!!!
 So much winning :cheer:

mkd

#42
January 28, 2025, 05:22 AM
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Jeff

#43
January 28, 2025, 05:49 AM
Neuro hates tariffs because then his $12 Starbucks will cost $20.
 :P
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gcode

#44
January 28, 2025, 06:02 AM
Quote from: Jeff on January 28, 2025, 05:49 AM$12 Starbucks will cost $20.

I am proud to say I have never spent a penny in a Starbucks
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