Trump needs to sign an EO to release the Epstein list!

[YoDoug]

AG Pam Bondi plans to release flight logs, names related to Jeffrey Epstein on Thursday

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/27/jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-names-pam-bondi/80690426007/


Weren't the flight logs already released?

No the previous DOJ/FBI just released enough of them to show the one flight on Epstein's second plane that went from FL to NY that Trump was on. Then the left tried to smear Trump as being part of the crap on Epstein island.

[neurosis]

No the previous DOJ/FBI just released enough of them to show the one flight on Epstein's second plane that went from FL to NY that Trump was on. Then the left tried to smear Trump as being part of the crap on Epstein island.

I'll see what I can find

"Yes, the Epstein flight logs were released through various legal proceedings, notably during the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's "right-hand woman." These logs detail passengers on board Epstein's private jet, often referred to as the "Lolita Express," and include information such as dates, departure and arrival locations, flight numbers, and passenger names.

The logs have been made public through court documents released in defamation lawsuits and other legal actions. They contain records of high-profile individuals who flew on Epstein's planes, including former President Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, among others.

These documents have been the subject of ongoing legal battles and have provided insights into Epstein's connections and the movements of those associated with him."

[Jim at Gentex]

The court of public opinion is absolutely political.

Can it be swayed by political forces?
Absolutely.

However, since we have seen that it has been negatively directed at both political parties at various times, I think it is apolitical in and of itself.

For example, the political right was just as convinced in the court of public opinion that Representative Ilan Omar was guilty of having an incestuous relationship with her brother as the political left was convinced that Brett Kavanaugh committed a sexual assault.

Neither accusation was ever proven, but I would be willing to wager that there are still people on both sides who believe both are guilty no matter what the accused have to say in their own defense.

More often than not, people who are found guilty in the court of public opinion are placed into the impossible position of having to prove a negative (i.e., that they DIDN'T do it), rather than starting from the presumption of innocence and having the accuser prove they DID do it.

That's why the court of public opinion is so easy to fall into, because the 'jurors' are not subject to any such constraints as we have in the real legal system. 

[Jeff]

court of public opinion that Representative Ilan Omar was guilty of having an incestuous relationship with her brother

Well... she DID marry him to get him into the country. So there's that. I never thought there was anything sexual, but then again you never know.

[Jim at Gentex]

Well... she DID marry him to get him into the country. So there's that. I never thought there was anything sexual, but then again you never know.

And that proves my point.
Since A happened, B must also be true, or may be true.

We need to be very careful with this Epstein list because we know it will light a fire on the interwebz! 

[Jim at Gentex]

No the previous DOJ/FBI just released enough of them to show the one flight on Epstein's second plane that went from FL to NY that Trump was on. Then the left tried to smear Trump as being part of the crap on Epstein island.

I again reference James Patterson's non-fiction book, 'The Mysterious Mr. Epstein'.

Patterson is known as a dogged researcher, and he made many FOIA requests for those flight logs as he prepared to write that book.

He is also no fan of Trump, but he was forced to conclude that Trump was only on a plane owned by Epstein that one time, on a hop from FL to NY.

Again, people can and will believe whatever they like, but as far as the Trump / Epstein connection, there appears to be only the one flight, and it was not to the island.

If more records are revealed by the DoJ than Patterson had access to, that could change.
But for now the Trump haters will have to look elsewhere for their ammunition.

[neurosis]

He is also no fan of Trump, but he was forced to conclude that Trump was only on a plane owned by Epstein that one time, on a hop from FL to NY.

According to News Nation, he flew on the planes 7 times. What does that mean exactly?  Who knows. Maybe nothing.

"Epstein flight log: Trump flew on Epstein's plane 7 times "

https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epsteins-plane-7-times/

This was supposedly on the flight logs released in January, 2024.

I'm trying to find them but am busy so having to actually work today. 

[CNCAppsJames]

... Katt Williams.
He is saying when all of this is said and done, people will be shocked at the scope of it, and by the sheer number of celebrities involved from across the whole entertainment industry. 

If people are shocked, they are gullible, ignorant fools and have not been paying attention for the 100+ years of film entertainment.

The "Entertainment" industry has ALWAYS been a brood of serial predators. 

[mkd]

I again reference James Patterson's non-fiction book, 'The Mysterious Mr. Epstein'.

Patterson is known as a dogged researcher, and he made many FOIA requests for those flight logs as he prepared to write that book.

He is also no fan of Trump, but he was forced to conclude that Trump was only on a plane owned by Epstein that one time, on a hop from FL to NY.

Again, people can and will believe whatever they like, but as far as the Trump / Epstein connection, there appears to be only the one flight, and it was not to the island.

If more records are revealed by the DoJ than Patterson had access to, that could change.
But for now the Trump haters will have to look elsewhere for their ammunition.

Let's not forget Trump calling out the billionaire right up to the edge of a slander lawsuit with his proclivity for young girls

[ghuns]

This is feeling like Geraldo in Al Capone's vault.

[neurosis]

Here is a break down of Trumps interactions with Epstien. I haven't watched the entire thing yet, but he does a pretty good job of explaining where he got his information.

[Shazam/TPP]

a big nothin burger like the JFK files 

[Jeff]

a big nothin burger like the JFK files 

The FBI office in NY stonewalled Pam Bondi. She sent a letter to Kash telling him to get it done by 8am this morning.

Those people will most likely be fired and hopefully prosecuted.

[SuperHoneyBadger]

a big nothin burger like the JFK files

I have never seen a more redacted document bubble up to the surface.

[Jeff]

My issue with this is that he never should have mentioned the JFK files or the Epstein files at all and just went in and got them.
Surprise! Gimme the files!

They've had all this time to shred or redact everything. Whether or not that's what happened remains to be seen.