Trump: US military ‘turned on the water

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Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on January 29, 2025, 08:42 AMThere is no way to bring water down to California from Canada by opening a valve.

Because it hasn't been built yet.
The infrastructure isn't in place to pull water from Canada yet I don't believe.
And when it's built, there will most likely be a valve of sorts that opens a flood gate or retaining wall to let water flow.

neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on January 29, 2025, 08:47 AMBecause it hasn't been built yet.
The infrastructure isn't in place to pull water from Canada yet I don't believe.
And when it's built, there will most likely be a valve of sorts that opens a flood gate or retaining wall to let water flow.


He never said anything about building infrastructure. He said that you could turn a valve that took a day to turn and water would flow in to Southern California from the Pacific Northwest and Canada, solving their water problem.

Again, he may just not know WTF he's talking about but I would assume that someone close to him would have told him by now? Have you EVER heard Trump admit to being wrong about something?
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riverhunter

its very simple.  search "ca or federal water transfer".  It happens every day.  different regions "share water" without actually connecting water by pumping in or out of various water sheds.

there are also numerous ways to divert water using diversion dams and or pump stations.

just search "Trinity River Division of the Central Valley Project"

pacific north west water can flow into the Klamath then goes into the trinity river and gets pumped into the sac river that will be pumped into the ca aqueduct or other places....
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neurosis

Quote from: beej on January 29, 2025, 08:45 AMthat is different from the water that you were talking about earlier. (Turning pumps on that were off) If I'm understanding that tweet correctly and if it's even a true tweet. He must be talking about trying to get water from the Columbia River into California. that's ambitious. Probably not impossible, but that would be a major project.

That wasn't a tweet. That is a quote taken from comments he made on Fox News.

He's been making this claim for months. Why would you assume he was talking about different water? 
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Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on January 29, 2025, 08:55 AMWhy would you assume he was talking about different water?


Cause Canada water tastes Funny , You can tell the difference. :o
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neurosis

Quote from: riverhunter on January 29, 2025, 08:53 AMits very simple.  search "ca or federal water transfer".  It happens every day.  different regions "share water" without actually connecting water by pumping in or out of various water sheds.

Nobody is arguing that.

Quote from: riverhunter on January 29, 2025, 08:53 AMpacific north west water can flow into the Klamath then goes into the trinity river and gets pumped into the sac river that will be pumped into the ca aqueduct or other places....

I'd have to look in to this. Does Oregon share water with California?

I don't think these things are as simple as water sharing. Even if Trump were talking about some how diverting water from the Columbia river down to California, the number of water rights lawsuits he would face would be nuts. Washington State already has it's own water problems. I don't know about Oregon, I don't live there so never looked in to it.


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beej

Quote from: neurosis on January 29, 2025, 08:55 AMThat wasn't a tweet. That is a quote taken from comments he made on Fox News.

He's been making this claim for months. Why would you assume he was talking about different water?

Because for one, there were pumps, that could be turned on, and somebody, even if it wasn't trump, turned them on. And in another conversation, he's talking about a valve that doesn't exist. That tells me that he is thinking about building a some kind of structure that would get water from the Columbia river to California. And I'm only assuming the Columbia river because he said that some of the water comes from Canada.

But here is the thing. The reason I made that conclusion was my mind didn't immediately jump to Trump is an idiot or Trump is a liar. My mind went to Trump is a builder. Also my mind goes to the fact that Trump has vision. So maybe you are right he is a liar and maybe I'm right he has a vision. I've worked for guys like him that are always wanting to create something, they have a vision for something and they lay out that vision and leave it to type A personalities to figure it out. Admittedly, sometimes those dreams are fruitless, impossible, or cost too much.

This may be one of those times. this probably ranks right up there with Buying Greenland, getting the Panama Canal back etc.  I don't fault him for thinking big. I wish the rest of us didn't think so small.
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Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on January 29, 2025, 08:52 AMHe never said anything about building infrastructure

He doesn't have to.
Does he also need to come out and tell you that the sky is blue and water is wet?
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neurosis

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Quote from: riverhunter on January 29, 2025, 09:06 AMplease just type your question into google.  it will save us all some time

I didn't ask anyone to waste their time on it.

It looks like the Trinity river is a Kalamath tributary, not the other way around.

"Klamath River Diversion
The Klamath River is not currently diverted to the Sacramento River. However, there was a proposal in the 1950s by the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation to divert the Klamath River to the Sacramento River system. This plan, known as the Klamath Diversion, would have involved damming the Klamath River and several other tributaries, and using a tunnel to carry much of the Klamath's water to the Sacramento River. The purpose of this diversion was to relieve irrigation water demand and groundwater overdraft in the Central Valley and boost the water supply for Southern California. However, this plan was never implemented."


The Trinity river is diverted, but it's not a Pacific Northwest River.

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Jeff

Trump just told Elon Musk to go get the 2 astronauts abandoned by the Biden admin.

Lemme guess Neuro's reply to that:

"What a fucking idiot, Elon isn't an astronaut!"
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Quote from: Jeff on January 29, 2025, 09:18 AMTrump just told Elon Musk to go get the 2 astronauts abandoned by the Biden admin.

Lemme guess Neuro's reply to that:

"What a fucking idiot, Elon isn't an astronaut!"
No rush though....I bet not only the Christmas stuff, they also "smuggled on Easter eggs".... :whistle:
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neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on January 29, 2025, 09:18 AMTrump just told Elon Musk to go get the 2 astronauts abandoned by the Biden admin.

Lemme guess Neuro's reply to that:

"What a fucking idiot, Elon isn't an astronaut!"

If he had said, just turn a valve and squirt me out an Astronaut, I'd be having words.
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neurosis

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Quote from: beej on January 29, 2025, 09:08 AMBut here is the thing. The reason I made that conclusion was my mind didn't immediately jump to Trump is an idiot or Trump is a liar.

You do understand why people do that, don't you?

Quote from: beej on January 29, 2025, 09:08 AMAnd in another conversation, he's talking about a valve that doesn't exist. That tells me that he is thinking about building a some kind of structure that would get water from the Columbia river to California. And I'm only assuming the Columbia river because he said that some of the water comes from Canada.

You're usually so rational. Do you spend this much time figuring out if a Democrat meant something other than what the 20 people in here say they meant? 

When I've heard him talk about that valve, it wasn't in a "i'm going to build that valve" context. It was in a "all we have to do is turn that valve".  :lol:  You give him a lot more credit than I do and good for you for that.
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Jeff

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