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rdshear

#166
February 27, 2025, 06:28 AM
From what I heard on the news, this child's family were Mennonites and didn't believe in vaccines.

Incogneeto

#167
February 27, 2025, 06:29 AM
Quote from: rdshear on February 27, 2025, 06:28 AMFrom what I heard on the news, this child's family were Mennonites and didn't believe in vaccines.


They are reporting 2 deaths now. :(
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neurosis

#168
May 30, 2025, 02:44 AM Last Edit: May 30, 2025, 03:13 AM by neurosis
Who would have thought?  :lol:

White House Health Report Included Fake Citations

https://archive.ph/F2aG8


A report on children's health released by the Make America Healthy Again Commission referred to scientific papers that did not exist.


Quote"It makes me concerned about the rigor of the report, if these really basic citation practices aren't being followed," said Katherine Keyes, a professor of epidemiology at Columbia University who was listed as the author of a paper on mental health and substance use among adolescents. Dr. Keyes has not written any paper by the title the report cited, nor does one seem to exist by any author.


Is there any irony in RFK releasing a report with misinformation, then calling medical journals "corrupt"?  :lol:
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JParis

#169
May 30, 2025, 03:18 AM
:cough:

Safe & effective

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neurosis

#170
May 30, 2025, 03:24 AM Last Edit: May 30, 2025, 03:27 AM by neurosis
Quote from: JParis on May 30, 2025, 03:18 AM:cough:

Safe & effective



That's true, but not a defense.
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JParis

#171
May 30, 2025, 03:26 AM
Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 03:24 AMThat's true, But not a defense.

Nope, just a statement of fact
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neurosis

#172
May 30, 2025, 03:28 AM
Quote from: JParis on May 30, 2025, 03:26 AMNope, just a statement of fact

Do you think the people who were critical of that "fact" will be just as critical of this?
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JParis

#173
May 30, 2025, 03:35 AM Last Edit: May 30, 2025, 03:44 AM by JParis
Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 03:28 AMDo you think the people who were critical of that "fact" will be just as critical of this?

Some will, some won't

Some will look at similar things happened in previous administrations an slough it off, other will look at it an think it's g'damn apocalyptic.

Let's face it, that hard lefties and the hard righties are in the pocket for whatever their "idol" says today.

The decisions by & large are being made in the middle and the real tell will be how the average person thinks about it.

DO I think it's a big deal?   

Not a huge issue, it'll get corrected and moved on. I am quite certain this is not the first time it's ever happened. The issue now is everything seems to find its way into the media.

The media coverage itself is so wildly out of focus that it's easy to lose sight of what's a real problem and what's just today's hyped up blurb of the day
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neurosis

#174
May 30, 2025, 03:46 AM
Quote from: JParis on May 30, 2025, 03:35 AMThe decisions by & large are being made in the middle and the real tell will be how the average person thinks about it.

DO I think it's a big deal? 

No a huge issue, it'll get corrected and moved on. I am quite certain this is not the first time it's ever happened. The issue now is everything seems to find its way into the media.

The media coverage itself is so wildly out of focus that it's easy to lose sight of what's a real problem and what's just today's hyped up blurb of the day


I somewhat agree with this. I think they've already released a modified report that removes some of the misinformation. There were something like 50 citations based on studies or information that didn't exist. The fact that RFK is known for spreading misinformation, this didn't come as a surprise to me. The way they're framing is as "formatting errors" is complete horse shit.

Where I would disagree, is that it's "not a big deal" Any time our government makes health recommendations or decisions based on misinformation, it's a big deal. I'm guessing you didn't think that Covid information handed out at the time "wasn't a big deal"? 


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JParis

#175
May 30, 2025, 03:55 AM
Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 03:46 AMI'm guessing you didn't think that Covid information handed out at the time "wasn't a big deal"?

I weighed the information, I listened to MY doctor's advice....based on "my" situation, I received the first 2 doses of Moderna and 1 booster....

At that point, the decision was made of "no more"

Even my doc doesn't push it anymore....as the info evolved minds were changed, mine included

I also wasn't one of those people who derided people that did not want it. It was and still is THEIR choice.

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neurosis

#176
May 30, 2025, 04:16 AM
Quote from: JParis on May 30, 2025, 03:55 AMI also wasn't one of those people who derided people that did not want it. It was and still is THEIR choice.

Same.

Most of my covid response complaints were on a local level. And honestly, it didn't affect my personal life very much. There was very little that I wasn't able to do that I had been doing pre-covid. But, I was still critical of decisions made by our local government that were made based on a lack of, and then eventually, what we found to be misinformation. 

As far as the vax goes, I didn't care who did, or didn't get it, while at the same time, watching the anti-vax side shit all over anyone who made the choice to get it. :shrug:

I didn't get a primary care physician until after covid, but she's never asked about or recommended the Covid vax.




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JParis

#177
May 30, 2025, 04:20 AM
Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 04:16 AMbut she's never asked about or recommended the Covid vax.

Mine did, I was part of the early groups that got it...the co-morbidities I had/have based on the early criteria, justified for me.

The things government did, were beyond that pale. Though I was one of the "Essential" workers I never got a thing, I just kept working
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Jeff

#178
May 30, 2025, 04:30 AM
Quote from: neurosis on May 30, 2025, 04:16 AMwhile at the same time, watching the anti-vax side shit all over anyone who made the choice to get it

So, you're blindly ignoring all of the people screaming at those who did NOT get it?
The number of those people massively outweigh the ones who didn't get it and condemned those who did.
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neurosis

#179
May 30, 2025, 04:37 AM
Quote from: JParis on May 30, 2025, 04:20 AMMine did, I was part of the early groups that got it...the co-morbidities I had/have based on the early criteria, justified for me.

The things government did, were beyond that pale. Though I was one of the "Essential" workers I never got a thing, I just kept working

My girlfriend works for the Seattle school district and the vax + boosters were mandated. Most of my girlfriends friends and family work in health care and recommended that she get it regardless of the mandate. My girlfriend never got covid even after being confined in a small condo with me having had it twice.

 
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