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neurosis

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Quote from: beej on February 04, 2025, 11:46 AMI do think they should be vetted. I guess, I'm just wondering why you think Musk's group hasn't but you assume the people they are checking on are. Are the vetters just inconsistent in your mind?

I've read that they hadn't and assumed because they had no security clearance for USAid, they hadn't been vetted. TBH, I'm still very doubtful.

If you ask me why I would assume that, to use Trumps words - "I have common sense".  :lol:  That's a joke

Jeff pointing it out made me think that I am making too many assumptions so I'll wait until I hear the rest of the story.

I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

Quote from: Jeff on February 04, 2025, 11:52 AMThe sky is falling!
The sky is falling!

Who you calling "Chicken Little""?? ;D
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Quote from: neurosis on February 04, 2025, 11:05 AMThis scorched earth agenda may end up causing a drastic pendulum swing in the other direction and I don't want to see that.


May...also may not.

Glass half full.
Glass half empty.

I'm just happy to see SOMETHING positive happening.
Everything has a potential downside, so let's just wait and see where this goes.

We already established that USAID was created by President Kennedy by executive order all the way back in 1961.
And Kennedy also had majorities in both the House and Senate, but he went the EO route anyway.

Trump is not the first to resort to executive orders to get results, and he won't be the last.
I hate the term 'new normal' but that's the reality.

I'm also skeptical, but I am choosing the glass half full scenario.  :yes:


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Speaking or pendulums... Dems don't get to claim anything after that shit show they just put on between 2020 and 2024.

Take the ass kicking you deserve and STFU about it. Think of it as a growth opportunity. Go back to school, read the Constitution, and do better. Whatever that dumpster fire you got going on at the DNC... yeah, do the opposite of that.

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Quote from: neurosis on February 04, 2025, 11:52 AM...

Jeff pointing it out made me think that I am making too many assumptions so I'll wait until I hear the rest of the story.

...
Waiting almost always produces better more well informed opinions.

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beej

the doge team all have ts/sci clearance. So there you go. that's the good news.

Trump gave them all temporary 6 month ts/sci clearances by executive order because he was aggravated at how long security clearances are taking, and he thinks that it is an attempt by the bureaucrats to block his agenda. That's the bad news if you don't like Trump or the good news if you do like Trump.
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Quote from: neurosis on February 04, 2025, 11:52 AMI've read that they hadn't and assumed because they had no security clearance for USAid, they hadn't been vetted. TBH, I'm still very doubtful.

If you ask me why I would assume that, to use Trumps words - "I have common sense".  :lol:  That's a joke

Jeff pointing it out made me think that I am making too many assumptions so I'll wait until I hear the rest of the story.



What kind of information does USAID store that these "kids" will have access to? It's a foreign aid agency...
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Incogneeto

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on February 04, 2025, 12:26 PMWaiting almost always produces better more well informed opinions.

JM2CFWIW

That's kinda the way beej insulted me this Morning. ;D  ;D  ;D
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Quote from: beej on February 04, 2025, 12:43 PMthe doge team all have ts/sci clearance. So there you go. that's the good news.

Trump gave them all temporary 6 month ts/sci clearances by executive order because he was aggravated at how long security clearances are taking, and he thinks that it is an attempt by the bureaucrats to block his agenda. That's the bad news if you don't like Trump or the good news if you do like Trump.

Approval for clearances tightened up considerably after a civilian contractor killed 12 people as a naval yard in Washington. Wait times went out to well over a year.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/09/17/223386340/alleged-navy-yard-shooter-got-clearances-despite-troubled-past
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Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on February 04, 2025, 11:52 AMJeff pointing it out made me think that I am making too many assumptions so I'll wait until I hear the rest of the story.



See ya in 4 Years. :welcome:
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gcode

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Quote from: RobertELee on February 04, 2025, 12:46 PMWhat kind of information does USAID store that these "kids" will have access to? It's a foreign aid agency...

Defending Democracy  donor stream

check out this flow chart from X, it is the work product from our boy geniuses scouring USAID files

It is a chart of how $$$ flow into, then out of various USAID accounts and finally end up in the coffers

of Bill Kristol's non profit, partisan Defending Democracy.

It is so convoluted and complex they say it's going to take 12 hours for their super computers to drill down through it.

It begs 2 questions
1. why are our taxpayer dollars going to a partisan political advocacy group?
2. how many of these balloons on the chart are actually legitimate and who else is benefiting from their dirty money.

USAID and the people in it have been very careless and blatant about looting America's treasury.
They held all the keys to the palace and felt totally safe stealing the American public blind.
Now, Trump has won the election, he has a key to the palace and 6 genius software engineers.

This threatens their money, livelihoods and even their freedom... and they will fight like cornered rats
to save themselves.

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Incogneeto

Quote from: mowens on February 04, 2025, 12:59 PMApproval for clearances tightened up considerably after a civilian contractor killed 12 people as a naval yard in Washington. Wait times went out to well over a year.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/09/17/223386340/alleged-navy-yard-shooter-got-clearances-despite-troubled-past

I understand your Aberrance to Government , I think what you don't get is that is exactly why we are here.

It's easy to say Trumptard.

I believe the majority of Trumpers believe as you do . Trust but not too much.

Prove by Your actions.

When I gave my 16 year old son the keys and said "Be back by 10" and He was ?

I smile and watch him again.

He gets another chance.

If he missed it. >:(

Duly Noted. :) 

Incogneeto

Quote from: gcode on February 04, 2025, 01:07 PMDefending Democracy  donor stream

check out this flow chart from X, it is the work product from our boy geniuses scouring USAID files

It is a chart of how $$$ flow into, then out of various USAID accounts and finally end up in the coffers

of Bill Kristol's non profit, partisan Defending Democracy.

It is so convoluted and complex they say it's going to take 12 hours for their super computers to drill down through it.

It begs 2 questions
1. why are our taxpayer dollars going to a partisan political advocacy group?
2. how many of these ballons on the chart are actually legitimate and who else is benefiting from their dirty money.

USAID and the people in it have been very careless and blatant about looting America's treasury.
They held all the keys to the palace and felt totally safe stealing the American public blind.
Now, Trump has won the election, he has a key to the palace and 6 genius software engineers.

This threatens their money, livelihoods and even their freedom... and they will fight like cornered rats
to save themselves.



Did they get one o' them their Presidential Pardons?? ::)

Incogneeto


Incogneeto

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on February 04, 2025, 12:26 PMWaiting almost always produces better more well informed opinions.

JM2CFWIW

I'm gonna save this one.

Pretty sure I will get to use it again. ;D
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