U.S. take over of Gaza

[Newbeeee™]

We need to be lithium digging in Chile before china does.

Trillions in Afghanistan hills...all now passed to ChyNa....

[Newbeeee™]

The King of Jordan did not say he was opposed to it. He said that some of the Arab countries had ideas as well, but he wanted to propose them in private rather than in front of the media.

Bibi already presented the plans to the world at the UN the other year.
"The Greater Israel Project"
Half of Syria, all of Jordan etc....Assad now removed, blah blah....

[neurosis]

I am interested, but I have to confess, it is more complicated there than I could possibly grasp with my little pea brain.

I've read several articles pre election that showed pro-Palestinian voters were moving to Trump due to his non-interventionist stance and to quote "the Biden administration's support for Israel's genocide of Palestinians" thinking Kamala would be an extension of Bidens policy in Israel.

Something tells me that these voters are currently having the regrets. 

I'm right there with you in that the politics in that area are too complicated for me to feel like I have an educated opinion. I've watched at least 10 debates on that area by people who are very well educated on the subject and still came away feeling like I'm glad that I'm not the one who has to figure out how to fix that problem.

With Trump, it's always hard to tell when he's serious or just bloviating, but displacing millions of people and taking a piece of land that has been so controversial probably won't lead to less terrorism and animosity toward the US. 

[Jim at Gentex]

...but displacing millions of people and taking a piece of land that has been so controversial probably won't lead to less terrorism and animosity toward the US. 

Taking it for the purpose of rebuilding it and giving the Palestinian people something tangible in return is a novel idea that has certainly never been tried.

Looking at the pictures, the people are already 'displaced' in the sense that there are hardly any structures that are even habitable, so ANY improvement is a step up.

Let's face reality, they can't possibly hate us more than they do now, so maybe rebuilding their city is an olive branch that might actually mean something.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Dementia nal , Delusional.. what ever you wear best.

I don't expect you to understand The Distinction between the two.

Try to come up with a thought of your own. We're all pulling for you!

[neurosis]

Taking it for the purpose of rebuilding it and giving the Palestinian people something tangible in return is a novel idea that has certainly never been tried.

So Palestinians would be allowed to return?  Trump said during the interview with Bret that they wouldn't. I'm usually a few days behind on the news (no cable television).

US President Donald Trump, in an interview aired Monday, confirmed that under his proposed American takeover of the Gaza Strip and resettlement of its 2.2 million residents, displaced Gazans would not have the right to return to the enclave upon its reconstruction.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-under-my-plan-gazans-would-relocate-permanently-not-be-able-to-return/

Let's face reality, they can't possibly hate us more than they do now

That might be true.


Here is the interview video from Monday. 

I'm not sure what he means by "they'll have much better housing" implying that they will be moved to Jordan and Egypt.

[Jim at Gentex]

Oh wow I completely misunderstood.
My bad.

TBF I didn't see the whole interview, because I thought he was saying they could move back in after the reconstruction.

So he is talking about building a permanent new settlement somewhere else for the Palestinians, and rebuilding Gaza for the Israelis?

That's a different situation.
The Palestinian people would still be getting new homes, but not in Gaza.

So are they proposing this new settlement to be located on land given to the Palestinian people by their neighboring countries to be their own separate, independent Palestinian State?
That is something they have always wanted, but I'm not sure they would be open to that idea.

We definitely need more information on this because even though Trump's intentions may be to help the Palestinian people, it seems like this could easily backfire. 

[Incogneeto]

Try to come up with a thought of your own. We're all pulling for you!

Just finish taking your Poop.

It will be the best work you do all Day.

[neurosis]

So he is talking about building a permanent new settlement somewhere else for the Palestinians, and rebuilding Gaza for the Israelis?

I don't really know and I'm not sure how that would look considering neither Country he's talking about want's the Palestinians.

Trump is talking about "negotiating" withholding aid to Egypt and Jordon if they don't agree to take the Palestinians in (my understanding) which lets face it, the aid is just a bribe to stay off is Israels back, isn't it? Too complicated for me. 

[RobertELee]

Oh wow I completely misunderstood.
My bad.

TBF I didn't see the whole interview, because I thought he was saying they could move back in after the reconstruction.

So he is talking about building a permanent new settlement somewhere else for the Palestinians, and rebuilding Gaza for the Israelis?

That's a different situation.
The Palestinian people would still be getting new homes, but not in Gaza.

So are they proposing this new settlement to be located on land given to the Palestinian people by their neighboring countries to be their own separate, independent Palestinian State?
That is something they have always wanted, but I'm not sure they would be open to that idea.

We definitely need more information on this because even though Trump's intentions may be to help the Palestinian people, it seems like this could easily backfire. 

And no matter what happens or doesn't happen, there will always be a conflict between the two, because it's the fucking Middle East, for one reason or another they can't just get along. I'd rather a half attempt at them figuring something out and giving them their own place, than just rebuilding and letting it happen all over again. Let the Palestinians decide. Trump is not saying it's a be all end all to his decision, but to step up to the table and talk you need to bring an idea and be willing to negotiate. That's what he's doing. I'm tired of my money in a form of blank checks going towards any of this shit, but if it fixes a problem then it may be worth it. Better than sending it to Ukraine to be blown up. 

[Bucky Cornstarch]

And no matter what happens or doesn't happen, there will always be a conflict between the two, because it's the fucking Middle East, for one reason or another they can't just get along.

Religion is a hell of a drug

[beej]

I don't really know and I'm not sure how that would look considering neither Country he's talking about want's the Palestinians.

Trump is talking about "negotiating" withholding aid to Egypt and Jordon if they don't agree to take the Palestinians in (my understanding) which lets face it, the aid is just a bribe to stay off is Israels back, isn't it? Too complicated for me. 

I've read that both countries have rejected the idea of taking in the palestinians because of the introduction of terrorism to their own countries. If that's true, it doesn't bode well for the 2 state solution. Which just sets up Israel to look bad for defending themselves over and over again.

[neurosis]

I've read that both countries have rejected the idea of taking in the palestinians because of the introduction of terrorism to their own countries. If that's true, it doesn't bode well for the 2 state solution. Which just sets up Israel to look bad for defending themselves over and over again.

If you can't 'force' Egypt and Jordon to take them in, what do you do with them?

[beej]

If you can't 'force' Egypt and Jordon to take them in, what do you do with them?

that's the question that I have too. I really don't know.

[RobertELee]

If you can't 'force' Egypt and Jordon to take them in, what do you do with them?

I hear Western Antarctica is beautiful?