Say bye to your land Ukraine. Sucks to be you.

[Smit]

Who didn't see this coming?!?! It sounds like the U.S. is going to help Putin get his pay day.

Hegseth says Ukraine cannot expect return to old borders, NATO membership

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BRUSSELS, Feb 12 (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said a return to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders was unrealistic and the Trump administration does not see NATO membership for Kyiv as part of a solution to the war triggered by Russia's invasion.
Speaking at a meeting of Ukraine's military allies at NATO headquarters in Brussels on Wednesday, Hegseth delivered the clearest and bluntest public statement so far on the new U.S. administration's approach to the nearly three-year-old war.
"We want, like you, a sovereign and prosperous Ukraine. But we must start by recognising that returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective," Hegseth told the meeting of Ukrainian officials and more than 40 allies.
"Chasing this illusionary goal will only prolong the war and cause more suffering," he added.

[YoDoug]

We should probably just keep giving them billions every month that half of can't be accounted for. Up until a week ago when the USAID numbers came out, Ukraine funding was greatest Democrat money laundering scam of our lifetime.

[RobertELee]

Send them to Western Antarctica as well.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

I hear there's going to be some resorts in Gaza opening soon.

[beej]

Who didn't see this coming?!?! It sounds like the U.S. is going to help Putin get his pay day.

Hegseth says Ukraine cannot expect return to old borders, NATO membership

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He's just saying what the Biden administration knew and wouldn't say out loud.

[beej]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/27/biden-endgame-ukraine-00133211

he administration official told POLITICO Magazine this week that much of this strategic shift to defense is aimed at shoring up Ukraine's position in any future negotiation. "That's been our theory of the case throughout — the only way this war ends ultimately is through negotiation," said the official, a White House spokesperson who was given anonymity because they are not authorized to speak on the record. "We want Ukraine to have the strongest hand possible when that comes." The spokesperson emphasized, however, that no talks are planned yet, and that Ukrainian forces are still on the offensive in places and continue to kill and wound thousands of Russian troops. "We want them to be in a stronger position to hold their territory. It's not that we're discouraging them from launching any new offensive," the spokesperson added.

according to a Biden administration official and a European diplomat based in Washington. Such a negotiation would likely mean giving up parts of Ukraine to Russia.

But yeah, that Trump, though...

[beej]

I hear there's going to be some resorts in Gaza opening soon.

you should go to gaza and tell us what it's like. I bet they would let you hang out, there.

not sure if the comma works there or not.

[Incogneeto]

Duhh.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/biden-minor-incursion-ukraine-putin-russia-invasion-nato-rcna12886

[CNCAppsJames]

We... and really I mean fuckin' Bidet and and the CIA are responsible for what happened over there. Bidet entertained the idea of them joining NATO. Should have NEVER even entered the conversation.

[RobertELee]

I wonder why Biden didn't try and stop it?

[MIL-TFP-41]

Anyone who doesn't see the Ukraine situations as an endless money pit is a fucking moron. Putin will NEVER stop. He has no conscience about sacrificing 10,000 lives to gain a foot of land. And now he has North Korean bodies to throw at the situation. It doesn't matter if it goes on for 20 years, it will continue. Negotiating something is better than throwing more pawns into the battle. 

[Newbeeee™]

It was NEVER going to be different.
Yet the trusted BBC and Gov kept saying Pootin lost and the billions are working
Funny that the meeting today was held by the Brits....

[YoDoug]

I hear there's going to be some resorts in Gaza opening soon.

I can get you set up on a great timeshare opportunity. The key to winning the timeshare game is if you only buy one you only get a vacation. If you buy two you get a free vacation. If you buy three sublet you get paid to vacation! Let me know when you are ready and I'll tell you where to send the check. I'll even get you the MAGA discount.

[JParis]

Evidently the US doesn't believe the Budapest Memorandum is worth the paper it was written on...

[Incogneeto]

I can get you set up on a great timeshare opportunity. The key to winning the timeshare game is if you only buy one you only get a vacation. If you buy two you get a free vacation. If you buy three sublet you get paid to vacation! Let me know when you are ready and I'll tell you where to send the check. I'll even get you the MAGA discount.

You forgot to tell him about the all inclusive "Rooftop Parties"