Say bye to your land Ukraine. Sucks to be you.

[YoDoug]

You forgot to tell him about the all inclusive "Rooftop Parties"

That's the upsell when we get further into negotiations.

[RobertELee]

Evidently the US doesn't believe the Budapest Memorandum is worth the paper it was written on...

"Under the agreement the Russian Federation provided security assurances to Ukraine in the form of promising neither to attack nor to threaten to attack them. "

"The Budapest Memorandum was negotiated at political level, but it is not entirely clear whether the instrument is devoid entirely of legal provisions. It refers to assurances, but unlike guarantees, it does not impose a legal obligation of military assistance on its parties."

I'd say it pretty much null and void at this point...

[gcode]

"Under the agreement the Russian Federation provided security assurances to Ukraine in the form of promising neither to attack nor to threaten to attack them. "

Ukraine also agreed to the destroy their nuclear arsenal which was substantial.
They did this after getting assurances from the US and NATO that we had their backs.
We may have meant it at the time, but we walked away when it became time to stand up.

[Incogneeto]

That's the upsell when we get further into negotiations.

A free Chair and Zip Ties.

[Incogneeto]

We... and really I mean fuckin' Bidet and and the CIA are responsible for what happened over there. Bidet entertained the idea of them joining NATO. Should have NEVER even entered the conversation.

The Equivalent of Canada joining the Russian Union.

Wonder if that would cause an issue??

Or maybe Cuba???

[Del.]

Who didn't see this coming?!?! It sounds like the U.S. is going to help Putin get his pay day.

Hegseth says Ukraine cannot expect return to old borders, NATO membership

Excerpt:

Trump said that awhile back.

[RobertELee]

Trump said that awhile back.

But he's a liar

[CNCAppsJames]

The Equivalent of Canada joining the Russian Union.

Wonder if that would cause an issue??

Or maybe Cuba???

Right? 

I mean we were TOTALLY OK with Russia parking Nukes on Cuba BITD. 

[Incogneeto]

Trump said that awhile back.

I was going to refer to TDS but there is no point in bringing Trump into this.


The fact that Smit is trying to pin this on a different Admin other than the Biden Admin for this Incursion.

Only shows the depth of his ignorance.

Biden literally said a Minor Incursion would be forgiven.

[Newbeeee™]

The fact that Smit is trying to pin this on a different Admin other than the Biden Admin for this Incursion.

It was always suxsessfull.
For the Buyed-In's bank accounts....

[mowens]

Better dead than red.

[Newbeeee™]

BBC headline
"Trumps phone call confirms Zalenski not in driving seat"

BuBuBuBuBuBuTT they kept saying he's the great strategist and running the show Bwahahahahaha

[Smit]

Anyone who doesn't see the Ukraine situations as an endless money pit is a fucking moron. Putin will NEVER stop. He has no conscience about sacrificing 10,000 lives to gain a foot of land. And now he has North Korean bodies to throw at the situation. It doesn't matter if it goes on for 20 years, it will continue. Negotiating something is better than throwing more pawns into the battle.

Did you see Charlie Wilson's war?

There is a time when the cost is too high if there is never an end in sight.

But obviously Afghanistan was relatively cheap.

[RobertELee]

I'm sure it was Trumps fault for Crimea as well... 

[Incogneeto]

I'm sure it was Trumps fault for Crimea as well... 

Don't even bring up the Afghan withdrawal.