Say bye to your land Ukraine. Sucks to be you.

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Smit

Quote from: Del. on March 01, 2025, 10:14 AMWouldn't be any talks if not for Trump.

Trump talks a lot for sure and he can talk to anybody he wants, but he has no business representing Ukraine. It seems clear Ukraine doesn't want him speaking for them.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: Del. on March 01, 2025, 10:14 AMWouldn't be any talks if not for Trump.

Smitty shoulda started this thread in 2021 when Biden threw down The Welcome Mat for Russia.

Now after 3 years and countless Dead.

He Blames Trump. ::)  ::)

Del.

Quote from: Smit on March 01, 2025, 10:18 AMTrump talks a lot for sure and he can talk to anybody he wants, but he has no business representing Ukraine. It seems clear Ukraine doesn't want him speaking for them.

Trump wants the killing to stop. That's his only concern. 1,000,000 deaths and wounded.
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Smit

Quote from: Del. on March 01, 2025, 10:33 AMTrump wants the killing to stop. That's his only concern. 1,000,000 deaths and wounded.

Sure, and if Putin gets paid for invading their country that's just the way it is. :rolleyes:

Also, it sounds to me Trump's kinda concerned about squeezing mineral rights out of Ukraine while they're backed into a corner and desperate.

But other than that, yeah, humanitarian indeed. Warms my heart. :rolleyes:

Del.

Quote from: Smit on March 01, 2025, 10:41 AMSure, and if Putin gets paid for invading their country that's just the way it is. :rolleyes:

Also, it sounds to me Trump's kinda concerned about squeezing mineral rights out of Ukraine while they're backed into a corner and desperate.

But other than that, yeah, humanitarian indeed. Warms my heart. :rolleyes:

He wants the money back we have given them. What's wrong with that? Z had already agreed to that and the agreement was ready to be signed yesterday.
I think everyone wants Ukraine to get best deal possible.
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neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on March 01, 2025, 10:30 AMin 2021 when Biden threw down The Welcome Mat for Russia.

So you're saying that the US is the reason that war started in the first place?
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on March 01, 2025, 11:15 AMSo you're saying that the US is the reason that war started in the first place?

Absolutely. :(

Obama convinced them to give up their Nukes. And promised to protect them if they did.

When Russia took Crimea  Obama did nothing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-claims-no-armed-invasion-145618750.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABYYMoKQbRi1fPzLmK-Hd2Enh1_6Unz543cN5_WGm5U6Xrx_s-piq6nzBmjji_LtV7GuEXxyGsMyACU2LWiMCYU87nuBFBhJOxHVvA6oeR9LvUY53Dwn5xiQ1vx-YCicdOcgQhtflirDiAuY26g1OWt2ihsRQPrYZ91ETaSdumYL

Biden was weaker than Obama and literally invited Russia in.

I have posted this with many links in previous Convo's.

You can read it for yourself but you are still gonna Say "But Trump"!!

When he had nothing to do with it. "Peace Through Strength"

Whereas The Biden Admin just threw Money at it. $$$$$


Incogneeto


neurosis

Quote from: Incogneeto on March 01, 2025, 11:29 AMAbsolutely. :(

I'm just trying to follow the logic.

We caused the war.

We fed Ukraine to the wolves and now we want them to pay for a war that we caused?
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

Quote from: Smit on March 01, 2025, 10:18 AMTrump talks a lot for sure and he can talk to anybody he wants, but he has no business representing Ukraine. It seems clear Ukraine doesn't want him speaking for them.

Well I'm glad you know all of the Ukrainians.

But I'm sure the relatives of the dead and wounded may be asking for a little help.

Not More War. >:(

Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on March 01, 2025, 11:38 AMI'm just trying to follow the logic.

We caused the war.

We fed Ukraine to the wolves and now we want them to pay for a war that we caused?


Logic is not your strongest suit. ;D

Perhaps if you re-read a couple times or maybe 5 or 6 . ;D

Incogneeto

I Mean I just showed you what Obama and Biden (Not Trump) did and you are questioning it. ::)  ::)

Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on March 01, 2025, 11:38 AMI'm just trying to follow the logic.

We caused the war.

We fed Ukraine to the wolves and now we want them to pay for a war that we caused?


Yes , So once you absorb that Obama/Biden Caused this .

Now figure a way out.

What cha got??? Seems like Trump has a Plan. :)

Incogneeto

And If Trump brings a Ceasefire???

Will you on this Forum admit you were wrong?? ;D

Incogneeto

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