Tariff purchases?

[neurosis]

a news organization whose stated goal is "to make change happen" ? really?  sounds so....very....independent.

I saw the same article this morning and questioned it because "Independent.uk"  They do cite their sources on this one.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

a news organization whose stated goal is "to make change happen" ? really?  sounds so....very....independent.

Did you read the story? Can you refute any of the info presented? Should I tell you about the 20% reduction of orders due directly to the tariffs, and the resulting furloughs and layoffs that are happening at the plant where I work?

[neurosis]

Damn.. from The Bulwark

[beej]

Did you read the story? Can you refute any of the info presented? Should I tell you about the 20% reduction of orders due directly to the tariffs, and the resulting furloughs and layoffs that are happening at the plant where I work?

I did read the story. It's most likely one-sided facts. It just strikes me funny that you think your news organizations are so much better than other people's news organizations when their stated goal is "to make change happen"

Just curious, in your journalism classes, was activism part of the curriculum or are journalist minoring in being an activist while majoring in journalism. or do they major in activism and minor in journalism?

[Bucky Cornstarch]

More tariff news:

Auto industry tells Trump that tariffs on car parts will mean 'layoffs and bankruptcy

[Bucky Cornstarch]

I did read the story. It's most likely one-sided facts. It just strikes me funny that you think your news organizations are so much better than other people's news organizations when their stated goal is "to make change happen"

I have made no claims as to the accuracy or legitimacy of this source. Much like the righty nutters do when confronted  about the validity of their sources, I have only asked the reader to refute any of the points mentioned in the story.

Just curious, in your journalism classes, was activism part of the curriculum or are journalist minoring in being an activist while majoring in journalism. or do they major in activism and minor in journalism?

I appreciate the leading wording and backhanded tone of the question, beej, so nice job. Were you a journalist or opinion writer at some point in life?

As far as my journalism classes, activism was absolutely not part of the curriculum, but I suspect some did go into the major because of it. In fact, my main takeaways were that we were taught how to report the facts of a story accurately and completely, and to recognize when facts were misleading and/or incomplete. It's really quite simple actually, which is why it baffles me when people post links to stories that are obviously misleading and who's only purpose is to fuel the fire of a reader's preexisting bias.

[beej]

It's really quite simple actually, which is why it baffles me when people post links to stories that are obviously misleading and who's only purpose is to fuel the fire of a reader's preexisting bias.

fair enough, but you just did that.    I don't doubt the facts in the story. I'm sure that those companies laid people off. it is a little curious that they didn't include any facts about companies that have announced they are expanding due to the tariffs. I'm no journalist, I admit that. I do try to get both sides of the story. I read all kinds of left and right reporting.

here is the other side.
https://www.industryselect.com/blog/new-us-factories-announced-in-february-2025

[SuperHoneyBadger]

As far as my journalism classes, activism was absolutely not part of the curriculum, but I suspect some did go into the major because of it. In fact, my main takeaways were that we were taught how to report the facts of a story accurately and completely, and to recognize when facts were misleading and/or incomplete. It's really quite simple actually, which is why it baffles me when people post links to stories that are obviously misleading and who's only purpose is to fuel the fire of a reader's preexisting bias.

When did you graduate? I suspect it may have been from a more honourable time in journalism. Sadly those days are behind us, and there is zero money to be made in factual, balanced reporting. Maybe there never was. Certainly the 24h news ecosystem has torn asunder any hope of truth or candor.

It's also no longer "quite simple really". There is a machine of big tech and big business churning beneath the surface of what is presented to us, and the levers aren't being pulled by some editor and his/her plucky reporters. There are narratives to uphold on both sides of the aisle, and it's practically a full time job to weed out what is objectively truthful and what isn't. Personally, I have stopped altogether. I literally do not have enough time to be a father, a wage earner and consume one iota of what the shills are shilling.

The motivation will always be to spin and protect the overall financial system; the little guy pays the big guy; and politicians are self-aggrandizing, corrupt liars from high school to the white house. Fight me.

[Newbeeee™]

More tariff news:

Auto industry tells Trump that tariffs on car parts will mean 'layoffs and bankruptcy

Oh well. If you lose your job, you lose your job.
Job losses happened since forever and certainly before Trump was here.
Remember, Correlation does not equal causation.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

More unbiased tariff news:

Buick Was Killing It, Then Came Trump's Tariffs

[Newbeeee™]

More unbiased tariff news:

Buick Was Killing It, Then Came Trump's Tariffs

More MSM bullshit.
Work harder. Be more efficient. Your company is bloated anyway.
If you lose your job, just smile. Don't worry.
Nothing to do with the Gov. They're helping everybody.
It's only fair.
Remember, Correlation does not equal causation.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Oh well. If you lose your job, you lose your job.
Job losses happened since forever and certainly before Trump was here.
Remember, Correlation does not equal causation.

More MSM bullshit.
Work harder. Be more efficient. Your company is bloated anyway.
If you lose your job, just smile. Don't worry.
Nothing to do with the Gov. They're helping everybody.
It's only fair.
Remember, Correlation does not equal causation.

Exactly. Similarly, Biden's policies had zero effect on inflation.

[beej]

Exactly. Similarly, Biden's policies had zero effect on inflation.

you can say that and be true if by Biden you meant, Beau.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

you can say that and be true if by Biden you meant, Beau.

Correct. And Barron Trump's policies have had zero effect on the stock market over the past month.

I mean seriously, we can play stupid all fucking day long if you'd like, but I might not be able to sink to level of the average Trump voter.

[beej]

Correct. And Barron Trump's policies have had zero effect on the stock market over the past month.

I mean seriously, we can play stupid all fucking day long if you'd like, but I might not be able to sink to level of the average Trump voter.

you don't have to. I didn't vote for Trump. But you can not in all honesty think that Biden's policies did not lead to inflation. Just to try and steelman your argument, you could try and point to the fact that there was global inflation, but then you'd also have to look at the fact that Trump's policies could cause a global recession. The world economy is tied to the dollar, there is no getting around that.

Maybe you could say that Biden wasn't running the show so it wasn't actually Biden's policies, which I'd agree with, but if you are going to give a name to the policies, his name was still on the door, even if he was just a stiff sitting behind the desk.

If you want to try and explain how giving billions and billions of cash to Americans at a time while supply of goods was impeded and over-regulating energy didn't cause inflation....well, go ahead and try.