The real reason for the tariffs

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mowens

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James I'm sorry we screwed up your life so badly.
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Quote from: YoDoug on April 16, 2025, 05:39 AMAny article or piece with "Fact Check" in the title is a red flag, regardless of source.

Using "fact check" in any title these days is going to turn off anyone on the right. I get a certain amount of cringe from it because I know that no matter how factual the information is, it's not going to be taken serious by anyone who refuses to believe that Trump might need a fact checking.  :lol:  This is another one that I wish they left "fact check" and "Trump" out of the title and just left it at "The truth behind the tariffs".

One thing I'm noticing, even more so recently, is that if Trumps name is used along side of anything negative, it just immedately gets dismissed by his base. 

Quote from: YoDoug on April 16, 2025, 05:39 AMRather than give you all the info they give you the version that fits their agenda.

By the way, these guys (taxfoundation) are right leaning.
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Del.

What's a liberal progressive doing on a right leaning site?

YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on April 16, 2025, 05:58 AMUsing "fact check" in any title these days is going to turn off anyone on the right. I get a certain amount of cringe from it because I know that no matter how factual the information is, it's not going to be taken serious by anyone who refused to believe that Trump might need a fact checking.  :lol:  This is another one that I wish they left "fact check" and "Trump" out of the title and just used something left it at "The truth behind the tariffs".

One thing I'm noticing, even more so recently, is that if Trumps name is used along side of anything negative, it just immedately gets dismissed by his base. 

By the way, these guys (taxfoundation) are right leaning.


Think of everything they have lied about Trump over the last 8+ years and been eventually proved wrong. How many times they claimed to have the next big scandal or illegal thing that was going to bring Trump down only to fizzle out when the actual details were revealed.

We all know someone in our personal life that is a serial liar. We have heard all their BS stories. Eventually you get to the point where you don't believe anything they say. That is how most Trump supporters feel about the media.
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Quote from: YoDoug on April 16, 2025, 06:04 AMWe all know someone in our personal life that is a serial liar. We have heard all their BS stories. Eventually you get to the point where you don't believe anything they say. That is how most Trump supporters feel about the media.

Yea, I remember when Trump supporters were calling Fox news "leftist media" because they made the mistake of calling Trump out once.  :lol:

They wont even take right wing media serious when they criticize Trump.
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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 15, 2025, 02:38 PMThe baby-bolmer generation and the media pretry much soiled our whole segment of the economy. Factory = Dirty, Machine Shop = Dirty, Blue Collar = Dirty

Your dad's and uncles went off to war, kicked some SERUOUS ass and saved the world from abject tyrann only to come back raise little fucking commies that have literally fucked up 3 generations and counting.. subjecting us to tyranny. 🫡

Nice work baby-boomers... nice fucking work. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Are you upset that every generation post baby boomer has had a lower standard of living than their predecessors? And that the transfer of wealth from the lower and middle classes to the upper classes is unequitable, due largely to Republican led policies that benefit corporate structure and the rich? Does it also bother you that in order for large corporations to grow and thrive, they must put shareholder profits over the wellbeing of it's workers, necessitating cuts to wages, benefits, worker safety and retirement plans? And that Trump policies, supported enthusiastically by his billionaire buddies, are accelerating and exacerbating these societal conditions?

Are you also starting to realize, like millions of the idiot cucks who were too stupid to understand they were being duped into voting for a candidate who in no way had their best interests at heart, that maybe these policies aren't good for the long term health of the United States?

Right there with ya buddy  :htu:
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Nuts are out in force this morning.
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Quote from: neurosis on April 16, 2025, 05:58 AMOne thing I'm noticing, even more so recently, is that if Trumps name is used along side of anything negative, it just immedately gets dismissed by his base. 

That sums up just about everything ever aired on CNN, MSNBC and all lefty media since 2016.


beej

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on April 15, 2025, 02:38 PMThe baby-bolmer generation and the media pretry much soiled our whole segment of the economy. Factory = Dirty, Machine Shop = Dirty, Blue Collar = Dirty

Your dad's and uncles went off to war, kicked some SERUOUS ass and saved the world from abject tyrann only to come back raise little fucking commies that have literally fucked up 3 generations and counting.. subjecting us to tyranny. 🫡

Nice work baby-boomers... nice fucking work. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

I wasn't born int the boomer generation, but now I'm identifying as a Boomer just so I can be triggered!

and get my retirement early before social security runs out of money.
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Quote from: mowens on April 16, 2025, 05:51 AMJames I'm sorry we screwed up your life so badly.
They didn't screw up my life, i love manufacturing.  Baby Boomers just screwed up our Nation's ability to make stuff.

If they didn't outright sell mineral rights and land leases on our own US soil, they moved production overseass... because #FactoriesRBad.

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Quote from: Jeff on April 16, 2025, 06:19 AMThat sums up just about everything ever aired on CNN, MSNBC and all lefty media since 2016.



I agree with you. MSNBC, at least back when I had cable television and was able to watch it, was just as bad as Fox in the other direction. 

My bigger point is that you can't even use right leaning sources to make a point if they are at all criticizing Trump. Criticize Trump = immediately dismissed.
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CNCAppsJames

"Fact Checking" pretty much only occurrs when a conservative speaks  I rarely ever see Madam Word Salad and her Bartender  get fact checled.

And in the process of the "Fact Checking" every syllable gets parsed.  If they did it for everyone, it wouldn't bother me in the least. Today though it just looks like #MOAROrangeManBad and #TDS.

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I just want to know which generation was responsible for creating the "participation trophy" generation.  :lol:
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

beej

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on April 16, 2025, 06:12 AMAre you also starting to realize, like millions of the idiot cucks who were too stupid to understand they were being duped into voting for a candidate who in no way had their best interests at heart, that maybe these policies aren't good for the long term health of the United States?

President Bill Clinton in 2000 pushed Congress to approve the U.S.-China trade agreement and China's accession to the WTO, saying that more trade with China would advance America's economic interests: "Economically, this agreement is the equivalent of a one-way street.

I wonder how democrats ever kept the union vote after that. That trade agreement allowed billionaires like the Walton family and Bezos to get rich with out paying american workers to produce goods. Why do you still vote democrat?

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