all true and yet false

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https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-new-york-times-investigates-the

QuoteThe New York Times cannot stop mangling the truth to serve its political goals.

On Sunday, the paper exhaustively examined the collision between an Army Black Hawk and an American Airlines jet that killed 67 people over the Potomac in January.

The massive 4,000-word article claimed the crash had many causes, including an overworked air traffic controller. "Missteps, Equipment Problems and a Common but Risky Practice Led to a Fatal Crash," the Times proclaimed.

Except that's not really what happened. Or what the Times found.

QuoteYes, the controller was busy. Yes, the Black Hawk pilots wore night-vision goggles that can, ironically, complicate seeing in cities with lots of ambient light.

Those choices and problems raised the risks of an accident.

But despite all the words the Times devoted to explaining the crash, its root cause was simple. The Black Hawk was flying too high. It flew directly into the CRJ700 regional jet. The plane's pilots and passengers had no chance.

That's the reality. The second reality is that an inexperienced female Army pilot, Capt. Rebecca Lobach, 28, was at the controls of the Black Hawk when it hit the CRJ700, on a training and evaluation mission.

What the Times actually found, the news in the article, is that the Lobach's copilot repeatedly warned her the helicopter needed to descend in the minutes before the accident. Just seconds before the crash, he suggested she tack left, a path that would likely have avoided the jet.

She didn't respond.

QuoteThe article is a perfect example of why so many people now distrust the legacy media. Nothing the Times wrote is untrue, and yet the story the paper offered is recognizably false, as false as "mostly peaceful rioting" or "cheap fake Biden videos" or "flatten the curve."

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Jeff

The pilot was told 3(?) times by the superior pilot seated next to her to change course. She never did.
Supposedly that's the latest news to come out. And he requested to navigate by eyesight.

YoDoug

A source close to the investigation, speaking under the condition of anonymity, stated the pilot did everything correctly.......
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Del.

Quote from: Jeff on April 29, 2025, 07:30 AMThe pilot was told 3(?) times by the superior pilot seated next to her to change course. She never did.
Supposedly that's the latest news to come out. And he requested to navigate by eyesight.

Wasn't it a woman pilot?

Jeff

Quote from: Del. on April 29, 2025, 07:56 AMWasn't it a woman pilot?
Yes.
I said "he" referring to the superior/supervising pilot.
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mkd

Can we go back to curb-rash and illogical fear of reversing? :o

gcode

They also failed to mention the female pilots White House connections?
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neurosis

I saw some memes flying around of Facebook saying that she was supposedly a Biden aid or something. It was quickly called out as being malarkey.  :shrug:  I have no idea.

I'm not really sure why it should matter that it was a woman? Are women not capable of flying helicopters? 

Back to the kitchen!   


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gcode

Quote from: neurosis on April 29, 2025, 09:42 AMI saw some memes flying around of Facebook saying that she was supposedly a Biden aid or something. It was quickly called out as being malarkey


https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/162338/dc-plane-crash-black-hawk-helicopter-soldier-identified

Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on April 29, 2025, 09:42 AMI'm not really sure why it should matter that it was a woman?

Didn't the MSM try to stifle the pilot's gender? I don't recall if they immediately reported it or not but I wanna say no.

neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on April 29, 2025, 10:28 AMDidn't the MSM try to stifle the pilot's gender? I don't recall if they immediately reported it or not but I wanna say no.

I don't remember.

There was so much DEI talk going on at the time, I mostly ignored the story. I figured I would wait until they investigated.

The one thing I do remember is the family requesting that the identity be withheld for a couple of days while they were getting rid of her social media accounts.  And lots of rumors that she was a lesbian.
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gcode

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It took 3 days before the pilots name was released which is not how it is normally done.
It is alleged her social media accounts and the accounts of her family members were scrubbed before the release.

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neurosis

I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

beej

When I shared this, I was struck more by the way that news organizations can publish a false story and still relate facts. So a fact checker can check the boxes and say, "Yep! all true!" while the story that they are printing is obviously false. It is masterful deception.
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Quote from: YoDoug on April 29, 2025, 07:38 AMA source close to the investigation, that loves them some DEI, speaking under the condition of anonymity, to protect the guilty, stated the pilot did everything correctly.......
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