Most Americans don't earn enough to afford basic costs of living, analysis finds

[CNCAppsJames]

The more government intervention the higher costs go. Take a popular topic; the cost of a college education... since .gov started giving away loans, costs have skyrocketed.

EVERYTHING government touches turns to shit.  And when a Democrat touches it... the shit goes off the charts.

#ChangeMyMind

[megatronprime]

This!
I see it in the UK and Spain and have no idea how those groups afford it...

Living many people in one apartment, the whole family line

[CNCAppsJames]

Also, most people today are not willing to do "whatever it takes". They just think they are owed a certain lifestyle. 

I worked two part time jobs and a full time job to support my family BITD. Ain't NOBODY setting sympathy from me. If you can't make it happen where you are, fuckin' move. I did what I did in The People's Republik of Kommieforniastan... one of THE most expensive places in the US to maintain the life we had. We went without a lot of things, we sacrificed.  Don't want to sacrifice? TOO FUCKIN' BAD! Stop complaining.  

[neurosis]

Also, most people today are not willing to do "whatever it takes". They just think they are owed a certain lifestyle. 

"whatever it takes" was different when we were young?

[JParis]

"whatever it takes" was different when we were young?

I don't think so.

I too used to work near 80 hours to take care of my responsibilities.

I'll turn 60 later this year...I didn't give up my side gig until about 6 years ago.

It's no different in that respect.

[CNCAppsJames]

"whatever it takes" was different when we were young?

No. Not. One. Bit. 



Excuses are like assholes. Everyone's got one. 

Stop complaining and get to work. If they spend half as much time working as they do inntherapy.amd complaining, they just might be able to accomplish something.  

[CNCAppsJames]

You know what I did when I didn't like how much I was paid? I learned more and changed jobs. Why don't they try that?

[neurosis]

You know what I did when I didn't like how much I was paid? I learned more and changed jobs. Why don't they try that?

YOu do know that there are people who work two, sometimes three, jobs who still can't afford to pay their bills? 

Does it ever get lonely up there on that throne?

[neurosis]

I don't think so.

I too used to work near 80 hours to take care of my responsibilities.

I'll turn 60 later this year...I didn't give up my side gig until about 6 years ago.

It's no different in that respect.

We did just have a thread that said that people are less able to afford things these days?  That was today? 

[JParis]

We did just have a thread that said that people are less able to afford things these days?  That was today? 

Yup and I'll put forth those people who can't afford things which I agree with.... also are not doing all they can to actually help themselves.

Those things are not mutually exclusive of each other

[JParis]

No. Not. One. Bit.



Excuses are like assholes. Everyone's got one.

Stop complaining and get to work. If they spend half as much time working as they do inntherapy.amd complaining, they just might be able to accomplish something. 

Or complaining about their "work, life balance"

[neurosis]

I'll turn 60 later this year...I didn't give up my side gig until about 6 years ago.

Damn. I thought you were my age.   

I'll turn 60 later this year...I didn't give up my side gig until about 6 years ago.

Now that I'm older, I cherish my personal time.

When we moved in to the building that we're in 13 years ago, I would sometimes work 18-hour shifts. Go home just to wake up and come back to work. I got little sleep (I don't get much now) and had no personal life.

The only one that benefited was the guy I worked for.  Don't get me wrong, I'm well taken care of. But he's going to come out of this a lot better than I am.

[neurosis]

Or complaining about their "work, life balance"

Damn.. I just did that.

[JParis]

Damn.. I just did that.

As you said, "now that I'm older"

[neurosis]

As you said, "now that I'm older"

Yea... I mean. Do we really live to work, or work to live?

Is it better to work yourself to death until you have no quality of life left to enjoy?

Honest question.

I took the work myself to death route.  I'm only 55 so I have some time left to enjoy and still have a smidgen of quality of life left.