Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit

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neurosis

Damn liberal lawers!   :realmad:

Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/two-thirds-doj-unit-defending-trump-policies-court-have-quit-2025-07-14/

"The seven lawyers who spoke with Reuters cited a punishing workload and the need to defend policies that some felt were not legally justifiable among the key reasons for the wave of departures.
Three of them said some career lawyers feared they would be pressured to misrepresent facts or legal issues in court, a violation of ethics rules that could lead to professional sanctions.
All spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal dynamics and avoid retaliation."
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

rdshear

Any time I hear that people "Felt" one way or the other, or "Feared" something or the other, I quit listening.  I don't give a rip about people's feelings or fears but more so the facts.  Contrary to what many would like people to believe, feelings and fears are not facts, they can often be irrational, and can easily misrepresent actuality. If these people "Feel" better quitting their jobs so be it, but unless their claims can show real facts, their fears and feelings are just that, fears and feelings.
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Jeff

Quote from: rdshear on July 14, 2025, 10:21 AMfeelings and fears are not facts

You just described the EXACT opposite of the Democratic party arguments. ;D

They prey on feelings and fears of what COULD happen, never what IS happening.
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Smit

The FACT is 2/3rds of the DOJ lawyers whose job it was to defend Trump policies quit because they FELT they would be expected to misrepresent facts and legal issues in court that would be detrimental to their careers when Trump is no longer the President.

On the bright side (for Trumpers) there is a strong possibility they will be replaced by "Trumper" lawyers who don't have any problem misrepresnting "facts" and legal issues before a court. :)

Coupled with provisitons in the big, beautiful, bill, the courts will not have the resources for pursue contempt of court rulings by the court.

Trump will be the law.

If you're not a Trumper, there is a strong possibility they will be replaced by "Trumper" lawyers who don't have any problem misrepresnting "facts" and legal issues before a court. :(

Recognize any of these?

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism

Excerpt:
QuoteThe 14 characteristics are:

1.  Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2.  Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3.  Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4.  Supremacy of the Military
    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5.  Rampant Sexism
    The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6.  Controlled Mass Media
    Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7.  Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8.  Religion and Government are Intertwined
    Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9.  Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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beej



Quote from: Smit on July 14, 2025, 11:06 AMExcerpt:
QuoteThe 14 characteristics are:

1.  Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2.  Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

HOLY COW! Obama was a fascist! who knew?
motto: YES WE CAN!
slogan: the man of many slogans
symbols: obama logo
songs:
paraphenalia: https://www.amazon.com/Obama-Merchandise/s?k=Obama+Merchandise

#2 eerily describes abortion

and this is just to put a little icing on the cake

this is from AI
Fascist leaders typically do not champion increases in gun rights. Instead, they often seek to control and potentially restrict access to firearms to maintain their power and suppress dissent. While they may utilize a nationalistic narrative around the idea of an armed citizenry for defense, this is often in the context of a state-controlled military or paramilitary force.
Examples of fascist leaders like Mussolini and Hitler, while sometimes using militaristic rhetoric, did not promote widespread gun ownership among the general populace.
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Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on July 14, 2025, 10:13 AMDamn liberal lawers!   :realmad:

Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/two-thirds-doj-unit-defending-trump-policies-court-have-quit-2025-07-14/

"The seven lawyers who spoke with Reuters cited a punishing workload and the need to defend policies that some felt were not legally justifiable among the key reasons for the wave of departures.
Three of them said some career lawyers feared they would be pressured to misrepresent facts or legal issues in court, a violation of ethics rules that could lead to professional sanctions.
All spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal dynamics and avoid retaliation."

Funny!!!

69 got dumped and they found 7 anonymous to complain.

It's too Hard!!! BooHoo Hoo!!! ;D
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