Democrat's race based gerrymandering is in trouble at SCOTUS

[mkd]

should democrats racist policy persist in 2026?

[CNCAppsJames]

If they eliminate race based gerrymandering, Dems would probably lose at least 10 seats.

[beej]

Democratic congressman from Texas have fled the state to Illinois to protest GOP gerrymandering there. Irony of ironies, that they would run from gerrymandering to the master artist of gerrymandering. I'm not even saying that I agree with Texas, but the fleeing is a bad look. Fleeing to Illinois only draws attention to their tendencies.  But bully for Democrats, they are hell on retreat.

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-extreme-risk-of-gerrymandering-becomes-reality-through-congressional-map/

[neurosis]

Irony of ironies, that they would run from gerrymandering to the master artist of gerrymandering.

I was reading a thread in another forum on this. I don't know that I've ever seen a president, in my lifetime, call for gerrymandering to gain seats in the house. At the same time, someone in the thread posted some photos of some districts in California, and it looked like someone sneezed the districts on to the map.    It's hard to say that there isn't some hypocrisy going on where gerrymandering is concerned, on both sides.

It would be nice if partisan gerrymandering was illegal.

[beej]

In missouri after the last census, there was a plan to divide up the congressional districts so that the state would go from 5 republicans and 2 democrats to 6 republicans and 1 democrat, but the Republican governor refused to go along with it, because it alienated the democrats in Kansas City. There were republicans that sided with him. the republican infighting got pretty ugly, but eventually the 5-2 plan won out.

I wonder if there was ever a blue state that has done something similar.

[beej]

I don't know that I've ever seen a president, in my lifetime, call for gerrymandering to gain seats in the house.

In the past we had presidents who got on the phone and told people what to do, today we have a president who gets on Truth Social and tells people what to do. I think it would be naive to believe presidents have not advocated for gerrymandering. Read a book, any book about LBJ. you have to know that guy was calling for any advantage he could get. Obama grew up in the chicago political machine. he benefited from gerrymandering, not in the terms of votes that he got because it was chicago, but in the terms of contributions to his campaign.

[Del.]

Gerrymandering has been going on for decades. Elections have consequences.

[mkd]

I was reading a thread in another forum on this. I don't know that I've ever seen a president, in my lifetime, call for gerrymandering to gain seats in the house. At the same time, someone in the thread posted some photos of some districts in California, and it looked like someone sneezed the districts on to the map.    It's hard to say that there isn't some hypocrisy going on where gerrymandering is concerned, on both sides.

It would be nice if partisan gerrymandering was illegal.

So it's the transpancy you have a problem with.
 Weird

[neurosis]

In the past we had presidents who got on the phone and told people what to do, today we have a president who gets on Truth Social and tells people what to do.

Yea, they're not even trying to hide it anymore.

Now look at what we have going on. Something that looks like it's leading up to a gerrymandering war between left and right States. Looking forward to seeing how this plays out in future elections. 

And as far as elections having consequences, everyone loves that idea until the other guy gets elected and a new precedence for corruption has been set.

[neurosis]

So it's the transpancy you have a problem with.
 Weird

It would be nice if partisan gerrymandering was illegal.

[mkd]

 The only difference is Trump's transparency.

[neurosis]

The only difference is Trump's transparency.

Are we still considering gerrymandering to be a corruption of the democratic process? 

If we're not, and we've decided that it's just become an acceptable part of our political process, then it doesn't really matter, does it? All I said was, In my lifetime, I've never seen a president openly call for gerrymandering to gain seats. That opens the door for everyone else to feel justified in openly disenfranchising their voters, and yes, I see that as a problem. "He doesn't care, why should we". 

When people start feeling like their vote doesn't count, they stop voting, or vote third party.   

[neurosis]

I tried to do a search to see which States are the top 10 most gerrymandered States in the US (curious which party takes the most advantage) and I don't know that it's possible to find accurate information? 

I didn't see Illinois in this one, so questioned its accuracy

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-gerrymandered-states

Then did a dive on perplexity and the response:

"The top 10 most gerrymandered states in the US, as identified by multiple recent sources (2023–2025), are Wisconsin, North Carolina, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Texas, Ohio, and West Virginia. Most of these states have maps that strongly advantage one party, often through extreme manipulation of district boundaries."


"Of the states most commonly listed among the top 10 most gerrymandered—Wisconsin, North Carolina, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Texas, Ohio, and West Virginia—almost all are currently Republican-led. Specifically, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Texas, Ohio, and West Virginia all have Republican-controlled legislatures and, in almost every case except North Carolina, Republican governors as of 2025"


To add - Now I think this will get some blow back:

"The states considered least gerrymandered are generally those that have adopted independent redistricting commissions or bipartisan processes to draw their electoral maps. According to assessments from the Princeton Gerrymandering Project, nonpartisan sources, and recent news analysis, the states with the least gerrymandered congressional maps include:

California

Arizona

Colorado

Michigan

Washington  <--- color me surprised

Idaho
"

"These states are frequently cited as models for fairer redistricting practices, often due to their use of commissions designed to be independent of partisan legislative control. For example, California's map is regularly endorsed by experts as not skewed for partisan advantage, and similar bipartisan or citizen-led models in Colorado and Michigan are recognized for producing more representative maps."

[mkd]

Gov. Abbott directs arrest of Texas Democrats https://share.google/TTpCTvQVq2hLaT4hi

It's like the Democrats have the legislature on ignore.
 Ignore is for pussies!
Arrest their asses🤣🤣🤣

[mkd]

I tried to do a search to see which States are the top 10 most gerrymandered States in the US (curious which party takes the most advantage) and I don't know that it's possible to find accurate information? 

I didn't see Illinois in this one, so questioned its accuracy

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-gerrymandered-states

Then did a dive on perplexity and the response:

"The top 10 most gerrymandered states in the US, as identified by multiple recent sources (2023–2025), are Wisconsin, North Carolina, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Texas, Ohio, and West Virginia. Most of these states have maps that strongly advantage one party, often through extreme manipulation of district boundaries."


"Of the states most commonly listed among the top 10 most gerrymandered—Wisconsin, North Carolina, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Texas, Ohio, and West Virginia—almost all are currently Republican-led. Specifically, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Utah, Texas, Ohio, and West Virginia all have Republican-controlled legislatures and, in almost every case except North Carolina, Republican governors as of 2025"


To add - Now I think this will get some blow back:

"The states considered least gerrymandered are generally those that have adopted independent redistricting commissions or bipartisan processes to draw their electoral maps. According to assessments from the Princeton Gerrymandering Project, nonpartisan sources, and recent news analysis, the states with the least gerrymandered congressional maps include:

California

Arizona

Colorado

Michigan

Washington  <--- color me surprised

Idaho
"

"These states are frequently cited as models for fairer redistricting practices, often due to their use of commissions designed to be independent of partisan legislative control. For example, California's map is regularly endorsed by experts as not skewed for partisan advantage, and similar bipartisan or citizen-led models in Colorado and Michigan are recognized for producing more representative maps."

We know you want to change the subject to save face for your Commie comrades at the DNc, but the subject is the race(IST) based system your brethren are engaged in