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YoDoug

Quote from: Jeff on August 08, 2025, 08:13 AMIf you ask the CEO of Nvidia, he says that Moore's Law is dead.
I have nothing to add if he's right or not, that's way above my head lol.

As relating to micro chips, yes. They have reached the limits of the physical properties of the materials. Until a better material or processor type is made/discovered it has peaked. As far as computing power to cost ratio over time, Moore's law still exists. AI is still following this curve as well.
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SuperHoneyBadger

Quote from: Newbeeee™ on August 08, 2025, 08:05 AMWatching it. The colours and the edge blend of the robot to the background....

If I may, coming from a VFX/Film background, this is definitely a real video. It's also from last year, and there are still no video-capable gen AI models that keep the subject identical between individual shots as in this footage. Additionally, there are very few even now that are capable of outputting video longer than 10 seconds. Also the camera motion is very natural for a handheld/chest braced steadicam rig, I'm not aware of an AI model that can fake natural camera motion for 2+ minutes.

Between these features: the length of each shot, camerawork, and the consistency, I am inclined to vouch for its veracity. Take that as you will!
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Jeff

Quote from: neurosis on August 08, 2025, 08:17 AMI remember hearing that they were out-pacing it. I wonder what he meant by "dead".
Probably something just to be a sales pitch for AI.
His last keynote speech he mentioned AI about 3,000 times.
Their 5000 series graphics cards did nothing for gamers and are super expensive on top of that.
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neurosis

Quote from: Jeff on August 08, 2025, 08:22 AMProbably something just to be a sales pitch for AI.

 :htu:

YoDoug kinda inadvertently answered my question too.

This is something I don't keep up on, but is interesting.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: SuperHoneyBadger on August 08, 2025, 08:20 AMBetween these features: the length of each shot, camerawork, and the consistency, I am inclined to vouch for its veracity. Take that as you will!


It's Fake. :)

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Newbeeee™

Quote from: SuperHoneyBadger on August 08, 2025, 08:20 AMIf I may, coming from a VFX/Film background, this is definitely a real video.
I'm not doubting the filming is real.
I'm saying to me, the robot "looks like it's inserted"....ie created. Ai'd, disney, warner bros, etc :shrug:
Just like a ton of Boston Dynamics ones were a couple of years ago.
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CNCAppsJames

Quote from: beej on August 08, 2025, 07:58 AMI think I would often do better talking to an AI operator as opposed to a call center in India.
Please don't touch the slurpee machine...
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Incogneeto

Quote from: YoDoug on August 08, 2025, 08:19 AMAs relating to micro chips, yes. They have reached the limits of the physical properties of the materials. Until a better material or processor type is made/discovered it has peaked. As far as computing power to cost ratio over time, Moore's law still exists. AI is still following this curve as well.

Well, only having lived in minnysoda for 8 years. I can understand your enthusiasm.

I'm thinking OSHA , The Unions , The bleeding hearts , yes liberals.

In no way will allow an autonomous robot. Without many years of congressional oversight.

It's not the technology , That will impede the revolution.

The first time there is a death attributed to a malfunction.

They will pull the plug.

It's the Human factor you are not considering.

You espouse the benefits but not the downfalls. :)

YoDoug

Quote from: Incogneeto on August 08, 2025, 11:44 AMWell, only having lived in minnysoda for 8 years. I can understand your enthusiasm.

I'm thinking OSHA , The Unions , The bleeding hearts , yes liberals.

In no way will allow an autonomous robot. Without many years of congressional oversight.

It's not the technology , That will impede the revolution.

The first time there is a death attributed to a malfunction.

They will pull the plug.

It's the Human factor you are not considering.

You espouse the benefits but not the downfalls. :)

LOL. I can only imagine you are saying this as a denial mechanism rather than admit what is coming. If you actually work in MFG you would know that;

1. Industrial robot have been in MFG for decades.
2. There have already been deaths and injuries from industrial robots and machinery that have fallen under OSHA oversight and they still have hundreds of thousands of robots in MFG plants.
3. In those same auto plants with all those robots are the ruminants of once large union workforces. 
4. In hundreds if not thousands of factories and warehouses there are already autonomous AGV robots driving around in close proximity to humans.


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neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on August 09, 2025, 05:57 AMLOL. I can only imagine you are saying this as a denial mechanism rather than admit what is coming. If you actually work in MFG you would know that;

To quote some of our sarcastic friends here on the forum.

"Good luck and I'm pulling for you. "

:D 
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

Incogneeto

Quote from: YoDoug on August 09, 2025, 05:57 AMLOL. I can only imagine you are saying this as a denial mechanism rather than admit what is coming. If you actually work in MFG you would know that;

1. Industrial robot have been in MFG for decades.
2. There have already been deaths and injuries from industrial robots and machinery that have fallen under OSHA oversight and they still have hundreds of thousands of robots in MFG plants.
3. In those same auto plants with all those robots are the ruminants of once large union workforces. 
4. In hundreds if not thousands of factories and warehouses there are already autonomous AGV robots driving around in close proximity to humans.




Yes but not true AGI. It's a long ways away.

And yea we built the motors for most the robots. Amazon , Samsung.

case in point.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/01/business/tesla-autopilot-crash-lawsuit


YoDoug

Quote from: Incogneeto on August 09, 2025, 09:21 AMYes but not true AGI. It's a long ways away.

And yea we built the motors for most the robots. Amazon , Samsung.

case in point.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/01/business/tesla-autopilot-crash-lawsuit

I have never even mentioned true AGI. True AGI is not needed for the future I laid out to happen. With all due respect, your comments on this subject show an ignorance in the current capabilities of AI and the rate of growth of capabilities. I build fairly complex automation cells. Currently someone with minimal experience could feed all of my C# programs, Robot programs, PLC programs, etc into Chat GPT and recreate or adapt my work with minimal effort and learning curve. A few years ago GPT was humorously stupid when it came to robot programming and PLC's. In a few years you will be able to ask it to design a control system, programs, etc for a robot cell and with minimal interaction get working results.



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Incogneeto

Quote from: YoDoug on August 09, 2025, 10:05 AMI have never even mentioned true AGI. True AGI is not needed for the future I laid out to happen. With all due respect, your comments on this subject show an ignorance in the current capabilities of AI and the rate of growth of capabilities. I build fairly complex automation cells. Currently someone with minimal experience could feed all of my C# programs, Robot programs, PLC programs, etc into Chat GPT and recreate or adapt my work with minimal effort and learning curve. A few years ago GPT was humorously stupid when it came to robot programming and PLC's. In a few years you will be able to ask it to design a control system, programs, etc for a robot cell and with minimal interaction get working results.





I'm not ignorant !! You're ignorant!! :rant:
 ;D  ;D  ;D

I'm well aware of the capabilities and possibilities. :D
In a manufacturing environment.

My address was more political. As this was a political thread. "Jane you ignorant Slut" :D

I was simply trying to use forethought that politicians have at this point not seen the possibilities.

of Graft and corruption to control the technology.

California has found a way to drive the entire Tech industry to move state.

My Point was ..... They won't move to minnysoda.

I am very ignorant. :)

"I Am Incogneeto" :D