Trump ally shot in Utah a few minutes ago

CNCAppsJames · September 19, 2025, 11:22 AM

TBF... there's be a lot of "coincidental" coincidences that get WAY less scrutiny than this.

About 73 by ~~the body~~ my count.

IYKYK

beej · September 19, 2025, 11:23 AM

Quote from: neurosis on September 19, 2025, 11:16 AMWhy do you think one is so obvious, and the other isn't?

Kimell has been shit talking the right for a long time. He's been criticizing Trump since Trumps first term. Do you think it's just a coincidence that he gets suspended while a multi-billion dollar merger hangs in the balance, for making a comment that not only wasn't that bad (in my opinion), but that people are just assuming that they know what he meant by?

Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with the comment Kimmel made, bur more that Trump want's these guys to pay for shitting on him all of these years so he's sicking Brendan Carr, who was the author of the FCC chapter in Project 2025 BTW (Yea, a Trump yes man), on anyone he doesn't want shit talking him.

because in one case the motive was written on the bullets and in the other case, Bob Iger hasn't yet spoken about it. Maybe it was because of the pressure Trump put on him. Maybe it didn't have so much to do with FCC license but the fact that Trump's words about the FCC license was a dog whistle for conservatives to start boycotting everything Disney, if they are not already.

All of that aside, my bigger point is, that democrats are showing willful ignorance about an obvious motive and show keen perception into a meeting that happened privately.

jstell · September 19, 2025, 11:27 AM

Quote from: beej on September 19, 2025, 10:51 AMI understand that could be the case or at least the percieved reason. But how do you know it's the actual reason?

here is the hollywood reporter's version of events. They are not exacly maga

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/how-jimmy-kimmel-benched-by-disney-dana-walden-1236374959/

The network affiliates that were threatening to not air the show are the ones seeking a merger. Nexstar is attempting to complete a merger with Tegna, which requires FCC approval.

CNCAppsJames · September 19, 2025, 11:56 PM

It is often spoken that "Trump is playing 4D Chess and his haters are playing checkers."

I've been digging into Late Night show ratings and salaries over the last 30 years...

Hear me out...

I'm starting to wonder if Disney is playing 4D chess on this issue.

Disney gets rid of the dog of a show host it's wanted to get rid of for some time, since it isn't even in the same galaxy of pulling it's weight on the network. The turd talks some shit that could become a real legal issue about a beloved American Patriot recently murdered.

In comes #OrangeManBad, leans on the FCC and Disney... You know it, I know it, and only the non brain dead among us knows it; Disney doesn't fight it one bit.

The left are idiots, they don't see Disney is framing the downfall for that late night turd on #OrangeManBad and they buy it hook line and sinker.

IOW... Disney let #OrangeManBad do their dirty work for them.

JM2CFWIW

neurosis · September 20, 2025, 06:43 AM

Quote from: Jeff on September 19, 2025, 03:46 AMGina Carano – Fired from The Mandalorian in 2021 for posts that didn't fit the Left's politics. Dropped by her agency too.

Megyn Kelly – Fired by NBC in 2018, her show axed over comments about Halloween costumes.

Even though this list isn't an apples to apples comparison, I thought these two "cancellings" were ridiculous.

I can't listen to Megyn Kelly these days. Once her more balanced approach turned full grifter (I'm not going to argue or explain that, it's my opinion - I have the same about Ben Shapiro). I used to listen to her regularly when she started her new podcast.

No, I don't just like Gena because I have a thing for women who can kick my ass.

The comments that got her cancelled were insensitive at best. I'm also not a Jew so

beej · September 20, 2025, 07:35 AM

Quote from: neurosis on September 20, 2025, 06:43 AMEven though this list isn't an apples to apples comparison, I thought these two "cancellings" were ridiculous.

I can't listen to Megyn Kelly these days. Once her more balanced approach turned full grifter (I'm not going to argue or explain that, it's my opinion - I have the same about Ben Shapiro). I used to listen to her regularly when she started her new podcast.

No, I don't just like Gena because I have a thing for women who can kick my ass. The comments that got her cancelled were insensitive at best. I'm also not a Jew so

But then you do agree that insensitive is a fixable offense?

neurosis · September 20, 2025, 08:07 AM

Quote from: beej on September 20, 2025, 07:35 AMBut then you do agree that insensitive is a fixable offense?

I'm not sure what you mean by "fixable". To me, in Cerano's case, there was nothing to fix. That may be my ignorance speaking for me. I'm not sensitive to holocaust comparisons. The blackface Halloween justification is a little more difficult to defend, but I feel like there was more to that story? I grew up in an era where I can relate to what she was saying.

beej · September 20, 2025, 09:43 AM

Quote from: neurosis on September 20, 2025, 08:07 AMI'm not sure what you mean by "fixable". To me, in Cerano's case, there was nothing to fix. That may be my ignorance speaking for me. I'm not sensitive to holocaust comparisons. The blackface Halloween justification is a little more difficult to defend, but I feel like there was more to that story? I grew up in an era where I can relate to what she was saying.

Sorry I meant firable offense

beej · September 20, 2025, 09:46 AM

Quote from: neurosis on September 20, 2025, 08:07 AMI'm not sure what you mean by "fixable". To me, in Cerano's case, there was nothing to fix. That may be my ignorance speaking for me. I'm not sensitive to holocaust comparisons. The blackface Halloween justification is a little more difficult to defend, but I feel like there was more to that story? I grew up in an era where I can relate to what she was saying.

Ok so then how do you justify the fact that mehan kelly talked about black face costumes, and lost her job. But jimmy Kimmel actually dressed up in black face costumes on his show but kept his job? Apples and oranges, still?

https://share.google/images/fHBKDSfeHOYGCKKwv

neurosis · September 20, 2025, 09:53 AM

Quote from: beej on September 20, 2025, 09:43 AMSorry I meant firable offense

Me personally - I think it depends on the comment and the intent.

If there is a clear policy in place then it is what it is.

As far as caving to public pressure in a business that relies on advertizing - I'm glad that I'm not the one having to make those decisions because I'm almost certain that more times than not, I would make the wrong one.

neurosis · September 20, 2025, 10:00 AM

Quote from: beej on September 20, 2025, 09:46 AMOk so then how do you justify the fact that mehan kelly talked about black face costumes

I didn't justify it.

Do you think Kimmel would have gotten away with dressing up in black face in 2018? Or today?

beej · September 21, 2025, 06:48 AM

Quote from: neurosis on September 20, 2025, 10:00 AMI didn't justify it.

Do you think Kimmel would have gotten away with dressing up in black face in 2018? Or today?

He wouldn't do it today and the reason he wouldn't do it is exactly the point I'm making. Democrats keep changing the rules, specifically to use them against conservatives. In 2000 blackface was fine in 2018 it is a firable offense. In 2008 Obama was against gay marriage in 2014 he said if you are against it, you're a bigot. In 2019 mostly peaceful protests were ok by 2021 they are a danger to democracy. In 2020, heck even in 2024 democrats were actively arguing against free speech look at them now.

neurosis · September 21, 2025, 08:05 AM

Quote from: beej on September 21, 2025, 06:48 AMHe wouldn't do it today and the reason he wouldn't do it is exactly the point I'm making. Democrats keep changing the rules, specifically to use them against conservatives. In 2000 blackface was fine in 2018 it is a firable offense.

I'm not sure what to say about this. Efforts to reduce what's seen as acceptable racism affects/targets only conservatives?

I was pro gay marriage in the 90's. I never understood what the problem there was, but then again, I don't have the good book telling me that it's a sin. I thought that everyone was nuts when it came to gay marriage. Why shouldn't a gay person have just as much right to be miserable as anyone else?

Jan 6th wasn't just a riot. But we've beaten that horse to death. No riot should be acceptable.

CADCAM396 · September 21, 2025, 04:57 PM

Freedom is not just a what you feel is correct it is freedom. watched todays Charlie kirk memorial and have to say I did not see full freedom displayed.
I am fully sad for what happened to him and condemn that.
probably not popular in all views but leave it at that.

CNCAppsJames · September 21, 2025, 06:26 PM

I heard a quote today;

QuoteGive me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.

Vladimir Lenin

Sadly conservatives abandoned or were pushed out of education, and regardless, the leftists have excelled at filling that vacuum. And since Lenin, Marx, and Castro are their heroes, they took that as a goal.

Unfortunately The Republic has suffered, and the left have so brainwashed this nation, they have convinced the masses that good is bad, left is right, up is down, debauchery is normal and healthy, etc...