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neurosis

Quote from: gcode on October 16, 2025, 06:33 AMand how many Dem presidents have talked about respecting the Constitution

How many times has Trump challenged the Constitution with his executive orders in just 7 months compared to the last several Dem Admins? I'm not arguing that I want a Dem for president. I'd just like a president that doesn't want to turn the Country in to an autocracy.

I agree with you on the border. A free-for-all when it comes to entering the Country is a bad idea now matter how you frame it. 

I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

TylerBeer

Quote from: gcode on October 16, 2025, 05:03 AMWhich shows less respect for the Constitution
An administration that opens the borders and floods the country with 6 million illegal immigrants
or one that is attempting to enforce immigration laws.?


Enforces with one hand, tears it up for the other.  He's selling your country out from under you.
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beej

Quote from: neurosis on October 16, 2025, 06:52 AMHow many times has Trump challenged the Constitution with his executive orders in just 7 months compared to the last several Dem Admins? I'm not arguing that I want a Dem for president. I'd just like a president that doesn't want to turn the Country in to an autocracy.

I agree with you on the border. A free-for-all when it comes to entering the Country is a bad idea now matter how you frame it. 



do you have an overall good opinion of FDR or poor opinion of him? there are a lot of similarities, not so much in politial ideology, but in the "get it done at any cost" mentality.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

gcode

Quote from: TylerBeer on October 16, 2025, 07:05 AMEnforces with one hand, tears it up for the other.  He's selling your country out from under you.

again
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Trump is a piker

gcode

Quote from: beej on October 16, 2025, 07:25 AMdo you have an overall good opinion of FDR or poor opinion of him? there are a lot of similarities, not so much in politial ideology, but in the "get it done at any cost" mentality.

true... The Supreme Court threw out his New Deal, so he crushed them

mowens

Jesus, you guys sound like school kids.

"He did it first!"
"No, she did it first!"
"Well, it was worse when they did!"
"Nuh, uh"
"Uh, huh"

What's next? "MOM, HE KEEPS LOOKIN AT ME!"
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neurosis

Quote from: beej on October 16, 2025, 07:25 AMdo you have an overall good opinion of FDR or poor opinion of him? there are a lot of similarities, not so much in politial ideology, but in the "get it done at any cost" mentality.

I'm not educated enough on FDR to make to give a meaningful opinion. I also wasn't alive at the time, so I don't know if I could relate to that era.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

neurosis

Quote from: mowens on October 16, 2025, 07:31 AM"He did it first!"
"No, she did it first!"

You would hope that everyone would be equally displeased when ANYONE "did it". 
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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

beej

Quote from: neurosis on October 16, 2025, 07:33 AMI'm not educated enough on FDR to make to give a meaningful opinion. I also wasn't alive at the time, so I don't know if I could relate to that era.

That sort of confirms something that I've been thinking about lately. There will come a time, when no one will remember Trump's personality, or his mean tweets, or they will only know what he did and didn't do. They most likely won't even remember what he tried to do, just what he did. I have a feeling that history will look at him with favor but it will take some time.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

TylerBeer

Quote from: gcode on October 16, 2025, 07:27 AMagain
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Biden White House for rent, see Hunter for prices and payment plans

Trump is a piker

So your guy is the same but worse, or better at corruption, depending on your views.

neurosis

Quote from: beej on October 16, 2025, 07:38 AMThat sort of confirms something that I've been thinking about lately. There will come a time, when no one will remember Trump's personality, or his mean tweets, or they will only know what he did and didn't do. They most likely won't even remember what he tried to do, just what he did. I have a feeling that history will look at him with favor but it will take some time.

I will bet you a wheel barrel full of microbucks that history will NOT look at him favorably. :lol: Then again, I could be dead by the time that does happen if it happens.  :D

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I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

beej

Quote from: neurosis on October 16, 2025, 07:54 AMI will bet you a wheel barrel full of microbucks that history will NOT look at him favorably. :lol: Then again, I could be dead by the time that does happen if it happens.  :D



we both will be.
Human pride weighed you down so heavily that only divine humility could raise you up again. ~Augustine of Hippo

Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: Jeff on October 16, 2025, 06:11 AMROFL "experts".
Remember when "experts" said the jab was safe?
Remember when "experts" said tariffs would put us into a depression?
Remember when "experts" said masks were effective?
Remember when "experts" said 6 feet would prevent spreading?

K

Just because you are too dim to understand facts and evidence doesn't mean the rest of us are.
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Jeff

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on October 16, 2025, 07:56 AMJust because you are too dim to understand facts and evidence doesn't mean the rest of us are.
Show us those "facts and evidence" that prove you're right.

Fauci admitted that he made up the 6 foot rule.
He also flip-flopped on masking more than once.
There hasn't been a depression because of tariffs.
The jab is/was in fact causing major health side effects.

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gcode

Quote from: Bucky Cornstarch on October 16, 2025, 07:56 AMthe rest of us are.

too dim to recognize facts and treat party propaganda as gospel truth
Wear your mask peasant!!
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