Gaza war: turning point?

Started by beej, October 06, 2025, 06:37 AM

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https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/gazans-have-a-message-for-hamas-end-the-war-now-ec769626?st=F5sbX6

QuoteAlaa Khalil, a 49-year-old Palestinian living in a tent camp in Gaza, doesn't like the terms of President Trump's peace plan. But she likes the war even less.

A mother of six who had to flee her home in Gaza City because of the fighting, Khalil says she is upset Trump's plan has no timetable for an Israeli withdrawal from the enclave and no guarantee that Israel's campaign against the militant group will stop for good.

"In many aspects this is not in the Palestinians' favor," she said in an interview. Even so, she said she hopes Hamas accepts it "so the bloodshed stops."

It is hazardous to generalize about public sentiment in Gaza. There are no reliable opinion surveys. But half a dozen people in the Palestinian enclave reached by The Wall Street Journal all had a consistent message: Hamas should accept the U.S.-brokered deal, despite what they see as its shortcomings.

Quote"For me, anything that ends the war is good," she said. "I don't care about Hamas's weapons, its leaders, their fate or the prisoners. My husband, my son, and I—we are the ones paying the price."
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Jeff

Quote from: beej on October 06, 2025, 06:37 AMdoesn't like the terms of President Trump's peace plan

Then she can negotiate the terms since nobody but Trump has even tried to do.

beej

Quote from: Jeff on October 06, 2025, 06:59 AMThen she can negotiate the terms since nobody but Trump has even tried to do.


it seems like we could cut her a little slack since she may not like the terms but is still pushing for it to be signed.
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gcode

Hamas will never agree to any terms that do not included the extermination of the Jewish race.

YoDoug

Quote from: gcode on October 06, 2025, 07:42 AMHamas will never agree to any terms that do not included the extermination of the Jewish race.


Or it will be a total lie and they will use it to but time while they continue to plan their next attack.
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beej

Quote from: gcode on October 06, 2025, 07:42 AMHamas will never agree to any terms that do not included the extermination of the Jewish race.


Part of the peace plan is that Gaza would get a new government propped up by the countries that have signed the Abraham accords. And the remaining Hamas leaders get amnesty in exchange for laying down arms.
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SuperHoneyBadger

Quote from: beej on October 06, 2025, 07:54 AMAnd the remaining Hamas leaders get amnesty in exchange for laying down arms.

Then they move to Iran, Pakistan or Afghanistan to just settle down with a few nice 9 year old boys, and totally not recruit for the Mujaheddin on the CIA's dime or anything...
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I wish we'd stop calling them "Palestinians" as if they are some kind of race. They are ethnic arabs displaced by various conquests over the decades. We can't do that though, because then their arab neighbors brothers would then be responsible for their care... here's a little secret; their arab "brothers" DO NOT WANT THEM! Why? Because they WILL destabilize any countries they inhabit. 

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