ICE agent fatally shoots woman

Started by mowens, January 08, 2026, 07:57 AM

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Smit

Quote from: gcode on January 27, 2026, 05:55 PMWhile this guy defiantly did not deserve what happened to him,
I think play stupid games, win stupid prizes applies here.

It's remarkable what you find when you close the PJMedia and Gateway Pundit tabs and see what's happening in the real world. :yes:

I'm wondering though, where did you get the information to support your original post? When his gun went off and he shot himself, and the other stuff you said you "believed?"
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jstell

Quote from: jstell on January 27, 2026, 11:22 AMAnother one, this time in Arizona.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/person-shot-border-patrol-involved-arizona-rcna256137

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/person-critical-after-border-patrol-shooting-arizona-nbc-news-reports-2026-01-27/
Update with more info on this incident.  Looks like CBP was actually doing their job on this one.  Guy was shooting at one of their helicopters after they chased him down and he got out of his truck to make a run for it.

SuperHoneyBadger

Quote from: jstell on January 28, 2026, 08:47 AMGuy was shooting at one of their helicopters after they chased him down and he got out of his truck to make a run for it.

If you're going to shoot at a chopper, you better make sure you down it... With all the violence surrounding ICE and now this one, when are they going to start using poacher's net guns? Bag 'em, tag 'em, sort 'em out after.

gcode

QuoteBased on what is now known, it is far more accurate to say that Alex Pretti functioned as an active participant in the ICE Watch insurgency in Minnesota. He was not a bystander. He was not merely present. He was trained, coordinated, armed, and operational. He provided actionable intelligence. He accepted assignments. He moved toward enforcement scenes in response to real time direction. And on the day of his death, he inserted himself physically into a confrontation with federal officers while carrying a loaded firearm and additional magazines, in violation of Minnesota law, after being warned by his own parents not to engage officers because of his anger.
To see this clearly, it helps to distinguish protest from direct action. Protest expresses opposition. Direct action seeks to obstruct. Protest communicates. Direct action intervenes. Protest attempts to persuade an audience. Direct action attempts to impose costs. ICE Watch was not organized around persuasion. It was organized around disruption. Its purpose was to locate, track, and interfere with immigration enforcement operations in real time.
Alex Pretti attended ICE Watch training. He participated in Signal groups used to coordinate these operations. He did not merely observe these channels. He contributed to them. He provided location updates. He responded to calls for support. He moved to spot ICE vehicles. He accepted assignments to go to enforcement scenes. That is not expressive dissent. That is operational participation.
According to CNN Pretti was involved with an encounter with ICE a week earlier. Reportedly Pretti was tackled by federal agents as he attempted to stop them from detaining an illegal alien. He claims that he suffered a broken rib before he was eventually released without charges. At the time he was carrying his ID but he wasn't carrying his pistol despite having a conceal carry permit.


https://x.com/amuse/status/2016235753005514902?s=20

neurosis

Quote from: gcode on January 28, 2026, 09:55 AMHe was not a bystander. He was not merely present. He was trained, coordinated, armed, and operational. He provided actionable intelligence. He accepted assignments. He moved toward enforcement scenes in response to real time direction.

This sounds like an overcomplicated way of saying that there are a bunch of people who created a group on snap-chat and coordinate to video ICE and CBP abuses.

Isn't that perfectly legal? 

Quote from: gcode on January 28, 2026, 09:55 AMHe accepted assignments. He moved toward enforcement scenes in response to real time direction. And on the day of his death, he inserted himself physically into a confrontation with federal officers while carrying a loaded firearm and additional magazines, in violation of Minnesota law, after being warned by his own parents not to engage officers because of his anger.

Anyone who watched the video's and don't have an opinion based on tribalism or ideology, would say that they saw him helping a woman who got shoved to the ground by CBP and he was killed for it.

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mowens

If he was licensed to carry a firearm why was breaking the law to carry one on Saturday?

and who is @amuse and why should he be listened to?
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jstell

Quote from: gcode on January 28, 2026, 05:36 AMOne ICE agent got his pistol and was walking away with it when he had an AD.
P320 FTW.  Apparently ICE agents aren't trained in safe handling of weapons?

neurosis

Quote from: jstell on January 28, 2026, 10:19 AMP320 FTW.  Apparently ICE agents aren't trained in safe handling of weapons?

That, and/or they're led by a group of authoritarian ass hats and are told they can do whatever they want and get away with it (absolute immunity).
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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: mowens on January 28, 2026, 10:06 AMIf he was licensed to carry a firearm why was breaking the law to carry one on Saturday?

and who is @amuse and why should he be listened to?

A quick search yields the following tidbits:

QuoteBased on available information, the anonymous X (formerly Twitter) account known as "@amuse" is not typically classified as a dedicated satirical publication, but rather as an account that shares falsehoods, propaganda, and politically charged content.

QuoteIF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

Before an anonymous X account called "Amuse" amassed 603,000 followers including some of the nation's leading MAGA figures, its owner, Alexander Muse, spent years building a brand as a conservative political pundit. 

The X account regularly shares falsehoods that billionaire X owner and Trump adviser Elon Musk and others sometimes amplify. Other followers include White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and U.S. Agency for Global Media adviser Kari Lake.

Experts who study political discourse on social media said it is increasingly common to see Musk and other prominent conservatives regularly engage with anonymous internet users, sometimes cherry-picking posts to amplify that align with their existing worldview or policies.

Look, we know gcode is fond of posting links to stories that support his warped viewpoints and twisted sense of reality. We also know that he is simply not bright enough to distinguish between actual news sources that produce legitimate content, and propaganda.

Par for the course, really.


gcode

Quote from: neurosis on January 28, 2026, 10:04 AMThis sounds like an overcomplicated way of saying that there are a bunch of people who created a group on snap-chat and coordinate to video ICE and CBP abuses.

Except they are using encrypted Signal communications and are trained and funded by foreign agencies
whose goal is the destabilization of the US.
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jstell

Quote from: gcode on January 28, 2026, 11:31 AMtrained and funded by foreign agencies
riiiight   ;D
where do you come up with this stuff?

neurosis

Quote from: gcode on January 28, 2026, 11:31 AMExcept they are using encrypted Signal communications and are trained and funded by foreign agencies
whose goal is the destabilization of the US.

It seems like we're doing a pretty damn good job of destabilizing the US on our own.

When I hear that someone is using Signal encrypted chat, that doesn't mean anything to me.  I use signal. A lot of people moved to Signal from Whatsapp when Meta took Whatsapp over. It's a popular messenger.

jstell

Quote from: neurosis on January 28, 2026, 11:53 AMdoing a pretty damn good job of destabilizing the US on our own.
Drumpf is doing it for free!  Doesn't even need to get paid by foreign adversaries.  Just maybe a little leverage from some kompromat. 

Bucky Cornstarch

G has got to be trolling us. Retirement prank? His way of saying that he's really gonna miss this place?

jstell