Derek Chauvin Verdict

[JParis]

Yeah, I would have a hard time not convicting with the threats of violence against the jury, even if I believed he was guilty.

Hopefully, that could be rooted out in the jury selection process.

[YoDoug]

Good, he didn't protect, or serve

He was a bad cop. He was showing off to the rookie cops how he could hold down Floyd without using his hands, as shown by his hands in his pockets. I don't think he suffocated Floyd, as the autopsy shows, but his indifference and negligence allowed Floyd to die while he was holding him down. Had he been more involved and concerned of the situation they could have possibly saved Floyd from his suspected overdose death. I think the second degree murder charge is a bit overreaching, but I would rather see him guilty on all three counts than walk free. JM2C

[Tim Johnson]

Good, he didn't protect, or serve

He was a bad cop. He was showing off to the rookie cops how he could hold down Floyd without using his hands, as shown by his hands in his pockets. I don't think he suffocated Floyd, as the autopsy shows, but his indifference and negligence allowed Floyd to die while he was holding him down. Had he been more involved and concerned of the situation they could have possibly saved Floyd from his suspected overdose death. I think the second degree murder charge is a bit overreaching, but I would rather see him guilty on all three counts than walk free. JM2C

My understanding was Floyd died in the ambulance, not while he was held down. I could be wrong though. When a thug tries to buy alcohol with fake money and gets the police called in and then fights police to stay out of jail I have no sympathy for the person.

[Matthew Hajicek]

LOL, show me actual proof of any jury member that voted to convict a cop of being targeted and hurt/killed because of it.

I am unable to parse your sentence.  They voted to convict a cop of being targeted?  What?

[HTM01]

[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=9887 time=1619022482 user_id=57]

LOL, show me actual proof of any jury member that voted to convict a cop, of being targeted and hurt/killed because of it.

I am unable to parse your sentence.  They voted to convict a cop of being targeted?  What?
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[Dan_AKA_ROY23]

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[YoDoug]

[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=9887 time=1619022482 user_id=57]

LOL, show me actual proof of any jury member that voted to convict a cop of being targeted and hurt/killed because of it.

I am unable to parse your sentence.  They voted to convict a cop of being targeted?  What?
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You are smart enough to know what I meant, but;

You commented that jury members lives would be in danger from voting to convict Chauvin. I'm asking for actual proof that that has ever happened. Police seeking violent retribution against a jury member.

[Matthew Hajicek]

You are smart enough to know what I meant, but;

You commented that jury members lives would be in danger from voting to convict Chauvin. I'm asking for actual proof that that has ever happened. Police seeking violent retribution against a jury member.

As I understand that sort of thing was common by both sides in mobster times.  If it did happen, what do you suppose are the chances the murdering cop would be tried and found guilty, thereby making it a matter of public record?  I'd put it around 2%.

[CNCAppsJames]

[quote="Matthew Hajicek" post_id=9887 time=1619022482 user_id=57]

LOL, show me actual proof of any jury member that voted to convict a cop of being targeted and hurt/killed because of it.

I am unable to parse your sentence.  They voted to convict a cop of being targeted?  What?

You are smart enough to know what I meant, but...
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You give Haj WAY too much credit. He is in fact NOT smart enough. In the dictionary next to mouthbreather... is a picture of him.

[Matthew Hajicek]

You give Haj WAY too much credit. He is in fact NOT smart enough. In the dictionary next to mouthbreather... is a picture of him.

Your maturity level is showing.

[Jeff]

[quote="Tim Johnson" post_id=9886 time=1619021612 user_id=68]
My understanding was Floyd died in the ambulance, not while he was held down. I could be wrong though. When a thug tries to buy alcohol with fake money and gets the police called in and then fights police to stay out of jail I have no sympathy for the person.
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He chose to die the moment he stuff his mouth full of fetanyl. It was only a matter of time.

[thad]

Will there be a new trial now?

[JParis]

Will there be a new trial now?

Maybe but if I were him I wouldn't be hopeful

There are real issues raised in the appeal, the question will be whether the  judge who hears it, feels the same....