New Plandemic - Convid2

[jstell]

I thought it was going to be monkeypox?

more likely measles.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/measles-is-making-a-comeback-can-we-stop-it-202503063091

[Newbeeee™]

more likely measles.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/measles-is-making-a-comeback-can-we-stop-it-202503063091

So 60 years of live virus vaccines didn't produce herd immunity as promised
Measles vaccine had negative efficacy for infection by definition, because the recipient got measles (the "vaccine" is measles) - the original Hilleman and Enders studies - a series of 8 papers in the NEJM 1960 showed this.

[Smit]

Gawddamn Frenchy!! 

[Bucky Cornstarch]

There was a conversation about the dumbest post ever in another thread.

Frenchy took that as a challenge.

[Newbeeee™]

Keep takin the poison and swallowing the hype boys

[TylerBeer]

So 60 years of live virus vaccines didn't produce herd immunity as promised
Measles vaccine had negative efficacy for infection by definition, because the recipient got measles (the "vaccine" is measles) - the original Hilleman and Enders studies - a series of 8 papers in the NEJM 1960 showed this.

THATS what you take from that? Yeesh

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Keep takin the poison and swallowing the hype boys

Two questions:

1) Did you read the article?

2) Do you understand science?

[Newbeeee™]

If you read articles about it, whenever there are "jab rollouts", the incidence rate of measles rockets
Yeah, if it makes you feel better, keep putting your arms out

[jstell]

So 60 years of live virus vaccines didn't produce herd immunity as promised

The issue, as stated in the article and just about any actual science you can read, is that when immunization drops below 95% for measles then there is no longer herd immunity.  That's one of the reasons it took forty years to reach "eliminated" status.  But the virus still exists, and vaccination rates have gone down over the last couple decades, largely because of that knucklehead Andrew Wakefield's "study" (falsely concluding that the vaccine causes autism) in 1998 that eventually got him removed of his license to practice medicine.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

If you read articles about it, whenever there are "jab rollouts", the incidence rate of measles rockets
Yeah, if it makes you feel better, keep putting your arms out

So, the answers to my questions are as follows:

1) Probably not

2) Absolutely not

[Newbeeee™]

So, the answers to my questions are as follows:

1) Probably not

2) Absolutely not

Take your mask off and I might hear you

[Newbeeee™]

The issue, as stated in the article and just about any actual science you can read, is that when immunization drops below 95% for measles then there is no longer herd immunity.  That's one of the reasons it took forty years to reach "eliminated" status.  But the virus still exists, and vaccination rates have gone down over the last couple decades, largely because of that knucklehead Andrew Wakefield's "study" (falsely concluding that the vaccine causes autism) in 1998 that eventually got him removed of his license to practice medicine.

The trouble is.... as I posted before (4 or 5 separate tests/links) back to back testing - nobody that is healthy, has ever caught anything from someone who "has it"

https://x.com/JamieAA_Again/status/2041094346024333514/photo/1

[jstell]

The trouble is....

You do realize that measles is not the flu.
R₀ is about ten times higher for measles (in unvaccinated).
flu: R₀ ~ 1.2-1.8
measles: R₀ ~ 12-18, and this is the highest of any virus - only whooping cough comes close and chicken pox is about half.

[mowens]

This how AI responded to the study Newb posted.

🧪 The experiment they're talking about
In 1919, a doctor named Milton Rosenau tried to prove how influenza spreads by exposing healthy volunteers to sick patients.
They did things like:
Spraying material from sick people's noses/throats into volunteers
Having sick patients cough directly into volunteers' faces
Injecting filtered secretions
👉 Result: none of the volunteers got sick �
Medium
That's the "gotcha" moment people use online:
"See? Healthy people didn't get it from sick people!"
🧠 Why that conclusion doesn't hold up
Think of this experiment like trying to start a campfire with damp wood and then declaring fire doesn't exist because it didn't catch.
1. They didn't know what caused flu yet
In 1919:
Viruses hadn't even been isolated
They were guessing bacteria might be the cause
So they weren't even sure what they were transmitting.
2. Timing was probably wrong
Flu spreads best before or just as symptoms begin, not necessarily when someone is already visibly very sick.
Experts reviewing this later noted patients in the study were likely too late in their illness to be highly contagious �
Reddit
3. Tiny sample size
They used about 10 volunteers.
That's not science by modern standards, that's more like a pilot episode.
4. Possible immunity
Some people already had partial immunity from earlier flu strains. That was a major factor in who got sick in 1918. �
National Geographic
5. Real-world evidence overwhelmingly contradicts it
Outside that one flawed experiment, the pandemic behaved exactly like a contagious disease:
Entire barracks, ships, and prisons got sick rapidly after one infected person arrived �
CDCR
Massive waves followed troop movements during World War I
About one-third of the world's population was infected �
CDCR
That pattern doesn't happen without person-to-person spread.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Take your mask off and I might hear you

Go take a science class. Masks are generally not required.