AI be trippin'

[mowens]

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00969-z

[YoDoug]

The same thing is happening in Law. A lot of lawyers and paralegals are just accepting AI case references without actually verifying them.

IMO, Trust but verify. AI will still save you more time and find more options if you let it do research, but you also need to verify the research is correct.

[Newbeeee™]

The same thing is happening in Law. A lot of lawyers and paralegals are just accepting AI case references without actually verifying them.

IMO, Trust but verify. AI will still save you more time and find more options if you let it do research, but you also need to verify the research is correct.

Same as Medical....

[mowens]

I don't have as much experience with AI as some of you but my experience has been the deeper you get into a subject the more likely it is for AI to make a mistake, at least with Chatgpt.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Anybody used the AI capabilities of Mastercam 2026? I'm curious to see what it will do with regards to machining strategies on jobs we "think" are optimized.

(Manufacturing is what I do between welfare checks BTW.)

[jstell]

capabilities of Mastercam 2026?

Dude, they can't even get the non-AI parts of 2026 to work properly.  Do you really think they have successfully integrated AI?

[Bucky Cornstarch]

Dude, they can't even get the non-AI parts of 2026 to work properly.  Do you really think they have successfully integrated AI?

Are you saying that Mastercam doesn't run flawlessly for you? 

[mowens]

I can honestly say I have gone 17 years without experiencing a Mastercam error.

[jstell]

Are you saying that Mastercam doesn't run flawlessly for you? 

2022 still works pretty good.  But when 2023 stuffed the machine group setup into the ubiquitous function panel and removed functionality in material selection, and the font change and layout of the tool tab...   I installed it, and binned it.  Same with 2026 and the levels and planes managers - loss of previous functionality and the new stuff doesn't work as advertised, with random extra levels, levels groups breaking when files are merged, not respecting active level on import/merge, etc.  Not doing 5-axis simultaneous, machine sim, or unified, there is not anything in the last five versions that improved capability, just trashed workflow.

[Bucky Cornstarch]

The last good version of Mastercam was V9.1

[Newbeeee™]

The last good version of Mastercam was V9.1

...SP2....
Fiss :whistling:

[jstell]

The last good version of Mastercam was V9.1

The first X was a disaster of half-baked release.  I thought X2 SP2 was one of the most stable versions ever.  X3 had a weird thing where the solid would just randomly disappear, and the workaround was to toggle the solid shading off and back on. X4 was the introduction of linking parameters so that was a big workflow change.  By X7 the verify window was standalone, so if it crashed you didn't crash the main mastercam window - but they also made it so verify almost never crashed.  By 2016 the opti-rough was getting pretty good.  2018 added the ability to sweep solids.  Somewhere in this the push-pull and other model prep stuff started to be pretty good.  2019 I skipped because the drill point selection got stuffed in the at-the-time new function panel and lost some functionality.  It was rebuilt for 2020 - thanks Aaron.  By 2020 the opti/dynamic got automatic flat recognition so if you turned on step up you didn't have to play with the value to try to get it to keep close to your desired stock-to-leave in z.  (This might have been by 2018.)
I imagine you're being cheeky about V9.1, but I'll admit that was a good one.  But there is so much more powerful stuff in the 2020 or 2022 versions, I can't imagine having to brute-force some of the stuff that's just easy now.  We take re-machining for granted now, but remember having to break lines in corners to be able to chain corner cleanup only as you went to a smaller endmill?
I'm sure people will tell me the same thing about features I should be excited about.  I've installed every version since 2022, and all I find is jacked workflow and loss of functionality pawned off as 'enhancements'.

[jstell]

The last good version of Mastercam was V9.1

...SP2....
Fiss :whistling:

MR0305 - the last update even after X was out.  Nobody was using X (for good reason) and they needed to give us some updated converters for file import.

[Newbeeee™]

By X7 the verify window was standalone, so if it crashed you didn't crash the main mastercam window - but they also made it so verify almost never crashed. 

X was like EtchASketch.... it had so many missing features that never made it to the release

X2 was basic....

Missed X3 because a bug of something I can't remember now

X4 after the initial patches was okay

But X5 after it's patches was the first real X version IMHO. Very good although buggy viewsheets.

X6 was withdrawn because @neurosis highlighted the optirough bug that never retracted and rapidid (new word ) through the part so I waited for 7....

7.... First release where they swapped to UBVS verify, where whatever settings used, round csk holes would still appear faceted and multicoloured.... I had a lot of back and fro's with Kenneth @IvoryTower about it and in the end, as always, the outcome was "wait until the next release"....

X8 had a bug where you could not use control comp on contour for deburring. And us Europeons, use that (although I recognise the retardity (another new word ) of it. I hated it but Bus Partner would only use control So skiperoo!

X9 YeahBaby! There's something about the last release before an interface change. 9 is prolly the lucky number
Finally, I got the Bus Partner to stop using 5 and use this as the control comp was fixed and the verify was now good.
(TBF I uninstalled 5 from his puter so he had no option....)

Used 17 in beta and hated it - "discovered" the hack for increasing the size of the QAT bar as the standard windowze size was piss-poor. Although increasing it for Mcam also increased all windowze QAT bars...

Did use 2020 for helping out my old company - and TBF I really liked that. Dead stable and all-round nice to use.
If only they would junk the MS BS and move to a decent Linux system....

[TSmcam]

I can honestly say I have gone 17 years without experiencing a Mastercam error.

Yeah, and the earth is flat...