So long Camplete

[MIL-TFP-41]

It was a good ride, but Autodesk appears to be Autodesking Camplete. I was hoping it would stay around long enough for me to retire....missing that by a few years.

Anyone got alternatives? Would prefer to keep the powerful post editing features I have grown to appreciate in Camplete.

We want to make sure you have the information you need regarding an important change Autodesk has announced for CAMplete. Below is a summary of the key dates, what they mean for your current subscription, and what your options look like going forward.
 
What's Changing:
Autodesk has confirmed that CAMplete (TruePath and TurnMill) will move through a structured End of Sale and End of Life process over the next several years. Here's what to expect at each milestone:
 
📅 June 7, 2026 - End of Sale (EOS) CAMplete will no longer be available as a new subscription. No new seats can be purchased after this date. Your existing subscription is not affected and you can continue to download and use the software as normal.
📅 June 7, 2028 - End of Renewal (EOR) CAMplete subscriptions will no longer be renewable after this date. If you wish to add seats, June 7, 2026 is the last date to do so.

📅 June 7, 2029 - End of Life (EOL) All commercial CAMplete subscriptions will conclude. After this date, the product will no longer be supported.
 
What This Means for You:
•   Your current subscription remains active and fully functional.
•   If your subscription renews before June 7, 2028, you can continue to do so on an annual basis up to the EOR date.
•   Autodesk Fusion is the recommended path forward for CAMplete users, offering integrated CAM capabilities within a single, cloud-connected platform. As a current CAMplete subscriber on a "Fusion with..." package, you already have access to Fusion. At the end of your contract, a standalone Fusion subscription will be needed to maintain continued access.

[Newbeeee™]

•   Autodesk Fusion is the recommended path forward for CAMplete users, offering integrated CAM capabilities within a single, cloud-connected platform. As a current CAMplete subscriber on a "Fusion with..." package, you already have access to Fusion. At the end of your contract, a standalone Fusion subscription will be needed to maintain continued access.

F'kin clowns.
Can you "pause" Mcam and just keep using CAMplete frozen as it will be for the time you need?
Or will CAMplete cease to work at it's last day?

#USBPerpetualLicenceFTMFW....

[jstell]

#USBPerpetualLicenceFTMFW....

definitely.

[Dylan Gondyke]

 

[kccadcam]

Anyone got alternatives? Would prefer to keep the powerful post editing features I have grown to appreciate in Camplete.

I have been checking this out, looks promising.
EureKa

[MIL-TFP-41]

I have been checking this out, looks promising.
EureKa

I'm not sure of the relationship between NexGen Solutions and Autodesk, I was/am under the impression they are also under the Autodesk umbrella. But yes...in the rest body of the e-mail I posted they were trying to pimp that product. Briefly looking at it is appears DSI (Eureka) and NexGen is now one entity.

https://www.dsi-mfg.com/merge-announcement

Eureka does not appear to be a post like Camplete is though.
Other concern is if they are autodesk, how long till they fuck that up? 

[TSmcam]

I'm not sure of the relationship between NexGen Solutions and Autodesk, I was/am under the impression they are also under the Autodesk umbrella. But yes...in the rest body of the e-mail I posted they were trying to pimp that product. Briefly looking at it is appears DSI (Eureka) and NexGen is now one entity.

https://www.dsi-mfg.com/merge-announcement

Eureka does not appear to be a post like Camplete is though.
Other concern is if they are autodesk, how long till they fuck that up? 

Eureka isn't Autodesk. They're a standalone company (called Roboris) out of Italy, though they do have a USA office. I've spoken with the USA people, and they are very capable. Eureka has a partnership with TopSolid, which has an option of Eureka integrated within TopSolid.

As for CAMplete, that sucks for CAMplete customers. Autodesk just want to Fusion everything. And all the younger generation are being mind melded into believing it is the way of the world.

[CNCAppsJames]

I meant to talk to you about it...had 50 other things going at the same time.

We're going with Eureka.

DSI and NexGen merged. We've got a long standing relation ship with the Channel Partner manager at DSI. He's a former Selway Applications Engineer. This will be very good for us. 

Eureka has a few Matsuuras already done. Working on a CUBLEX as we speak. Once that's done, the MX-520T shoudl be finished.

I think at the moment, the MX-330/MX-420, and the MAM72-35V/MAM72/42V are done. I have the 35V?42V I'm putting throgh it's paces.

I've had to keep pretty tight lipped about this unfortunately.

I started preparing for this eventuality when Autodesk bought CAMplete. Autodesk has a well earned reputation of doing exactly with with their software acquisitions. That said, CAMplete will live on, It will just live inside of Fusion. I fully expect Fusion to be CMMC compliant before CAMplete's end of life. It's been something that's been in the works almost since Fusion's inception.

When Matsuura USA severed it's relationship with Autodesk, we kicked the research into high gear as we figured it was only a matter of time.

There are only 4 software packages on the planet that can do what CAMplete does or more; Manus, ICAM, NC Simul, and Eureka. Manus is out - they are a Turkish company. The US is only one fatwa away from getting disconnected from that. ICAM's support is garbage on a good day. NC Simul... this business is all about relationships, and Hexagon owns NC Simul now we don;t really KNOW anybody over there. Eureka... they are already partnered with a machine we represent (MCM), and when DSI asked me to take a hard look at Eureka, their support team, and what they already had done, it seemsd like a natural fit.

A MASSIVE plus for Eureka, they can support multi-tasking and B-Axis lathes. Something we have not been able to do since our Partnership with Nakamura was discontinued.

So, we're full steam ahead with Eureka. I expect to have this under my belt like CAMplete by no later than the end of the year.

[CNCAppsJames]

https://www.dsi-mfg.com/merge-announcement

Eureka does not appear to be a post like Camplete is though.

It does. It's an add-on... NC Coder I think is the name of that add-on.

It's got a Mastercam Plug-In

[MIL-TFP-41]

Great info James, thank you.

About the only good thing I can try to take away from this is they are giving us a couple of years to migrate. The really really shitty thing is we will be paying for something that we already had that just won't work for us anymore.

Keep me filled in on how friendly the post builder is. Camplete set the standard on that one. All of my NC formats are just things I've cobbled together over the years, stealing ideas from others, coming up with my own....you wind up with stuff that would be tough to duplicate or transfer to a new system.

NC Simul... this business is all about relationships, and Hexagon owns NC Simul now we don;t really KNOW anybody over there.

Going back a few years, before they were acquired by Hexagon, they basically ignored me & my boss at the time at IMTS. Literally treated us like one would a homeless guy that shit his pants. So, they won't see a dime as long as I have any say.

[CNCAppsJames]

Great info James, thank you.

About the only good thing I can try to take away from this is they are giving us a couple of years to migrate. The really really shitty thing is we will be paying for something that we already had that just won't work for us anymore.

Keep me filled in on how friendly the post builder is. Camplete set the standard on that one. All of my NC formats are just things I've cobbled together over the years, stealing ideas from others, coming up with my own....you wind up with stuff that would be tough to duplicate or transfer to a new system.
Going back a few years, before they were acquired by Hexagon, they basically ignored me & my boss at the time at IMTS. Literally treated us like one would a homeless guy that shit his pants. So, they won't see a dime as long as I have any say.

My recommendation to customers at this moment is keep your CAMplete subscription up to date through 2027. Before then you should be able to fully evaluate it. 

Check your e-mail.