Trump Organization, CFO indicted on tax fraud charges

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Jeff

#45
July 09, 2021, 03:17 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=13140 time=1625789515 user_id=72Have you forgotten the one's that "committed Suicide"?


Minor fiss

Jeff

#46
July 09, 2021, 08:22 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: gcode post_id=13099 time=1625683217 user_id=60Cumo just declared crime a public health crisis in NY
His solution is a new state law allowing lawsuits against firearms manufacturers
This flies in the face of Federal law, but I'm guessing he's thinking the Biden Admin
will turn a blind eye to his law breaking


Gotta love James Woods.

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Quote"Check on your grandparents. There's a killer on the loose."

pmartin

#47
July 12, 2021, 04:38 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: CNCAppsJames post_id=13137 time=1625788799 user_id=62
Quote from: pmartin post_id=13118 time=1625744408 user_id=85
Quote from: CNCAppsJames post_id=13114 time=1625700912 user_id=62Free Fiss


Ha Ha Ha. :p You guys prove my point in trying to rebut it.

Oh, and nice debating ploy there, insulting the other guy. :_thumbdown:

So you're saying the Clinton criminal enterprise is a figment of James McDougal, Mary Mahoney, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, C. Victor Raiser II, Montgomery Raiser, Paul Tulley, Ed Willey, Jerry Parks, James Bunch, James Wilson, Kathy Ferguson, Bill Shelton, Gandy Baugh, Florence Martin, Suzanne Coleman, Paula Grober, Danny Casolaro, Paul Wilcher, Jon Parnell Walker, Barbara Wise, Charles Meissner, Dr. Stanley Heard, Barry Seal, Johnny Lawhorn Jr., Stanley Huggins, Hershell Friday, Kevin Ives and Don Henry, Keith Coney, Keith McMaskle, Gregory Collins, Jeff Rhodes, James Milan, Jordan Kettleson, Richard Winters, Major William S. Barkley Jr, Captain Scott J. Reynolds, Sgt. Brian Hanley, Sgt. Tim Sabel, Major General William Robertson, Col. William Densberger, Col. Robert Kelly, Spec. Gary Rhodes, Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Conway LeBleu, Todd McKeehan, Molly Macauly, John Ashe, Victor Thorn, Seth Rich, Joe Montano-Filipino, Shawn Lucas, Klaus Eberwein, and Steve Mostyn's imagination?


You might want to re-read my original post. Not everyone else's knee jerk replies.

I never said that the Clinton's are stellar individuals. Then again, I will state that in my opinion Trump is not a stellar individual either. Probably both need to get adjoining cells and nice stylish jumpsuits.

gcode

#48
July 12, 2021, 06:02 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: pmartin post_id=13201 time=1626089915 user_id=85in my opinion Trump is not a stellar individual either.

Trump has been investigated non stop by Federal and State prosecutors for years and years
To date, all they got is an employee who failed to pay taxes on company cars.

YoDoug

#49
July 12, 2021, 06:33 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
I had a thought this past weekend. Everyone loves to trash talk the Trump org for bad business deals that leave small contractors and vendors to foot the bill. The thing is, over 20+ years in MFG I have heard countless stories of GM, Boeing, etc. doing the same. Working in consumer products I have heard the same stories of Walmart and Amazon. I'm not saying it is right, but it seems it is a problem of big corp ethics, not Donald Trump. The only thing I can attribute the animosity to possibly is that Trump has placed himself as the face/name of the Trump org, whereas GM, etc are nameless faceless corporations.

JParis

#50
July 12, 2021, 06:44 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=13207 time=1626096783 user_id=58I had a thought this past weekend. Everyone loves to trash talk the Trump org for bad business deals that leave small contractors and vendors to foot the bill. The thing is, over 20+ years in MFG I have heard countless stories of GM, Boeing, etc. doing the same. Working in consumer products I have heard the same stories of Walmart and Amazon. I'm not saying it is right, but it seems it is a problem of big corp ethics, not Donald Trump. The only thing I can attribute the animosity to possibly is that Trump has placed himself as the face/name of the Trump org, whereas GM, etc are nameless faceless corporations.


I think you're close to the mark....but the driving thing, it's how boastful he is about it...

No one is supposed to the be that sure or confident, especially publicly...anyone who is must be torn down...
We see it all the time, the media props up a person and spends all its time tearing them back down.

RobertELee

#51
July 12, 2021, 07:08 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=13207 time=1626096783 user_id=58I had a thought this past weekend. Everyone loves to trash talk the Trump org for bad business deals that leave small contractors and vendors to foot the bill. The thing is, over 20+ years in MFG I have heard countless stories of GM, Boeing, etc. doing the same. Working in consumer products I have heard the same stories of Walmart and Amazon. I'm not saying it is right, but it seems it is a problem of big corp ethics, not Donald Trump. The only thing I can attribute the animosity to possibly is that Trump has placed himself as the face/name of the Trump org, whereas GM, etc are nameless faceless corporations.


The company that comes to mind while reading your post is Tesla/SpaceX. Elon would be considered the face of them and from rumblings I've heard they do similar antics.

However the media praises him as a savior and ignores the facts.

YoDoug

#52
July 12, 2021, 07:12 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: JParis post_id=13209 time=1626097465 user_id=139
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=13207 time=1626096783 user_id=58I had a thought this past weekend. Everyone loves to trash talk the Trump org for bad business deals that leave small contractors and vendors to foot the bill. The thing is, over 20+ years in MFG I have heard countless stories of GM, Boeing, etc. doing the same. Working in consumer products I have heard the same stories of Walmart and Amazon. I'm not saying it is right, but it seems it is a problem of big corp ethics, not Donald Trump. The only thing I can attribute the animosity to possibly is that Trump has placed himself as the face/name of the Trump org, whereas GM, etc are nameless faceless corporations.


I think you're close to the mark....but the driving thing, it's how boastful he is about it...

No one is supposed to the be that sure or confident, especially publicly...anyone who is must be torn down...
We see it all the time, the media props up a person and spends all its time tearing them back down.


I think there is a bit of selective moral outrage from the left as well. They love to hate Trump because he is the face of Trump corp and it's business doings. However, they ignore the unethical business of high profile leftist corp leaders like Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Barra, etc. We should be calling out all immoral and unethical business dealings of big corporations regardless of who is at the helm. Corp greed and the drive for corporate world domination is a huge part in the downfall of America. For these big corps America is only one of many profit centers. Their interest is aligned with their performance overall, not what is best for the American worker/citizen.

neurosis

#53
July 12, 2021, 12:39 PM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=13207 time=1626096783 user_id=58I had a thought this past weekend. Everyone loves to trash talk the Trump org for bad business deals that leave small contractors and vendors to foot the bill. The thing is, over 20+ years in MFG I have heard countless stories of GM, Boeing, etc. doing the same. Working in consumer products I have heard the same stories of Walmart and Amazon. I'm not saying it is right, but it seems it is a problem of big corp ethics, not Donald Trump. The only thing I can attribute the animosity to possibly is that Trump has placed himself as the face/name of the Trump org, whereas GM, etc are nameless faceless corporations.


Is it really that common place for large corporations to hire small companies to do work for them, refuse to pay them, then tie them up in litigation to the point of having to settle or file bankruptcy?     :thumbdown:

If it is, I'm guessing that Trumps business dealings became more common knowledge once Trump hit that national stage as president.

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I'd read about some of his business dealings before he ran for president. I've pretty much always thought that he was a turd. Not to mention, when questioned about those practices, he defended them.  Anyone willing to engage in that type of business practice, especially when it's hurting small companies run by people who are just trying to put food on their tables, in my opinion, is a turd.  I don't care if it's Trump, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Dorsey, or whoever.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

crazy^millman

#54
July 12, 2021, 02:48 PM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: neurosis post_id=13217 time=1626118741 user_id=49Is it really that common place for large corporations to hire small companies to do work for them, refuse to pay them, then tie them up in litigation to the point of having to settle or file bankruptcy?     :thumbdown:
   
I'd read about some of his business dealings before he ran for president. I've pretty much always thought that he was a turd. Not to mention, when questioned about those practices, he defended them.  Anyone willing to engage in that type of business practice, especially when it's hurting small companies run by people who are just trying to put food on their tables, in my opinion, is a turd.  I don't care if it's Trump, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Dorsey, or whoever.


Agree 100% and why our company has such an extensive Terms and Conditions it has now. One of them is the company has 10 business days after delivery of work to review and accept delivered work. No word in 10 business days the company is sent an invoice. Years ago had a company sit on programs for 3 months because they were busy and didn't run the program and then refused to pay for the work until they ran the programs. That took another 2 months then waited 3 months to finally pay the invoice. Time the project was started and finally got the last payment it dragged out for almost 12 months. Yes it was one of the aforementioned companies.  :whistle:

Jeff

#55
July 13, 2021, 03:37 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: YoDoug post_id=13212 time=1626099143 user_id=58selective moral outrage from the left


Nailed it!
Hence why Hunter's laptop is hush hush, but if that were Don Jr's laptop....holy shit they would rip him apart.
Oh and don't forget PedoJoe helping out Hunter with his "art" if you want to call it that.
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