Sandvik Just bought Gibbscam/Cimatron

[gcode]

Following on to Ronaldo...say AutoDevil buys Module Works and says you'll not be supplying to anyone else as from Monday...
Ouch!

Typically such a buyout would include a contractual requirement to service existing customers for an agreed upon period and solemn promises to carry on existing relationships going forward.
Of course these solemn promises would be promptly forgotten once contractual obligations had been fulfilled.
Losing ModuleWorks would be a heavy, possibly fatal blow to Mastercam... and many other CAM companies

[crazy^millman]

Friend and fellow Contractor was using CAMPLETE had been told for years no worries about his use of licenses. Then got a short notice must switch to new License process that Autodesk put in Place June 30th. His years of a good relationship with them was thrown to the curb and he was told he would have to start new and not carry anything from the previous relationship. The work he had put forth helping them gain their market presence all forgotten and means nothing now. Bottom line money is money and the bigger companies more times than not only look to the bottom line not the people or relationships that help get them there. If CNC Software is bought by a bigger company I see many of the smaller relationships gone. Just the nature of the beast when dealing with bigger and bigger companies. Many try to make the claim they are different, but they are not and they fall short.

[CNCAppsJames]

There it is in a nut shell. Camplete now under Autodesk. Why does Autodesk even allow other competitors to use it or develop and interface for them? Your effectively empowering the competition to go after your customer base.

Would you rather have a sliver of pie or no pie? AD, with it's aquisition of CAMplete has effectively been able to generate revenue in an arena that was previously unavailable.

We've all had the discussion about Dassault either killing SW or moving it to their own solid kernel, yet here we are... some 10+ years later and Dassault is still writing that check to it's competition (Siemens) with no end in sight.  Dassault enables it's competition. So will AD... and they both make money in the process.

Following on to Ronaldo...say AutoDevil buys Module Works and says you'll not be supplying to anyone else as from Monday...
Ouch!

I though that too but time will tell.

[gcode]

Friend and fellow Contractor was using CAMPLETE had been told for years no worries about his use of licenses. Then got a short notice must switch to new License process that Autodesk put in Place June 30th. His years of a good relationship with them was thrown to the curb and he was told he would have to start new and not carry anything from the previous relationship. The work he had put forth helping them gain their market presence all forgotten and means nothing now.

Handshake agreements made with honorable people are worthless once a company is sold and the big company
legal teams take over.

[gcode]

We've all had the discussion about Dassault either killing SW or moving it to their own solid kernel

Dassault floated that boat in 2015. The blowback from the SW dealer network and userbase was nuclear.
SW is a cash cow with 250K maintenance paying seats worldwide, though I'm thinking AD has
whittled that down some in recent years.
In the end Dassault swallowed their pride and decided to keep milking the cow.

[JParis]

In the end Dassault swallowed their pride and decided to keep milking the cow.

and AD has no such pride

[gcode]

In the end Dassault swallowed their pride and decided to keep milking the cow.

and AD has no such pride

AD is playing the long game..they don't mind killing a cash cow.
Their goal is owning the whole herd.

[MIL-TFP-41]

Always interesting to speculate where this will put CNC Software. So Sandvik decided to get into the CAM business to compliment their tools. Makes you wonder if Kennametal will follow that lead...or the elephant in the room, Berkshire Hathaway (IMC group - ie Iscar). Their pockets are basically bottomless & could easily acquire whatever they desire.
I would bet its a matter of time before it happens to CNC Software.  
By whom is the only question.

[gcode]

Git this in an email this morning

    
Sandvik Coromant moves US Headquarters to Mebane, North Carolina
 

   

    Dear Valued Customer,

It is with great pleasure that we announce as of August 1, 2021, we open our doors to the new Sandvik Coromant US headquarters, a spacious, state-of-the-art facility in North Carolina's Research Triangle area. The facility includes our US corporate offices and a Sandvik Coromant Center equipped with machines dedicated to customer training, testing and projects, all housed in the same building as our existing production unit where we manufacture Sandvik Coromant indexable tools.

Please take note of our new corporate office for your records, which replaces the Fair Lawn, NJ address:

Sandvik Coromant
1483 Dogwood Way
Mebane, North Carolina

Beginning August 1, 2021, the phone number to the Mebane Sandvik Coromant Center will be (919) 304-8800. You can, as always, reach our customer service at 1-800-SANDVIK or by email at [email protected]

If you have any questions about the new location or our services, please call us and we'll be happy to help. We're grateful for your business and look forward to continuing to grow with you.

Best Regards,

Sandvik Coromant

[crazy^millman]

Git this in an email this morning

    
Sandvik Coromant moves US Headquarters to Mebane, North Carolina
 

   

    Dear Valued Customer,

It is with great pleasure that we announce as of August 1, 2021, we open our doors to the new Sandvik Coromant US headquarters, a spacious, state-of-the-art facility in North Carolina's Research Triangle area. The facility includes our US corporate offices and a Sandvik Coromant Center equipped with machines dedicated to customer training, testing and projects, all housed in the same building as our existing production unit where we manufacture Sandvik Coromant indexable tools.

Please take note of our new corporate office for your records, which replaces the Fair Lawn, NJ address:

Sandvik Coromant
1483 Dogwood Way
Mebane, North Carolina

Beginning August 1, 2021, the phone number to the Mebane Sandvik Coromant Center will be (919) 304-8800. You can, as always, reach our customer service at 1-800-SANDVIK or by email at [email protected]

If you have any questions about the new location or our services, please call us and we'll be happy to help. We're grateful for your business and look forward to continuing to grow with you.

Best Regards,

Sandvik Coromant

Like many companies leaving California they go where the state is more business friendly.    

[gcode]

Sandvik used to do some very nice presentations at their Cypress facility, but they moved out of there years ago

[TSmcam]

Big changes everywhere.

Thats about it really...

[CNCAppsJames]

In the end Dassault swallowed their pride and decided to keep milking the cow.

and AD has no such pride

I guess we shall see.

[Jeff]

Like many companies leaving California they go where the state is more business friendly.    

I thought their HQ was in Pennsylvania? I was WAY off lol

[gcode]

They used to have a very nice facility out here, but the press release
say corporate HQ was moving from New Jersey to North Carolina