New Rittenhouse FBI spy video

Started by gcode, November 03, 2021, 03:55 AM

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Incogneeto

#75
Quote from: neurosis post_id=18501 time=1637092284 user_id=49
Quote from: Jeff post_id=18498 time=1637090882 user_id=103Man, it was rough watching the prosecution's closing arguments and the spin they were putting on everything.


This is why I hate our legal system.  It's not about finding the truth necessarily. It's about who can be more convincing to the jury.  

It shouldn't be that way.


Ok I'm about to slap you as hard as I can..

It's Not about finding the truth (correct) It's about $$$$

you have Not been to Family Court Lately.

And as far as this case...It should be in front of a Jury. (Hard to believe there could be 12 completely Stoopid Individuals)

Del.

#76
I believe the defendant gets the choice of Judge or Jury before trial begins.

Del.

#77
Taking a long time. Not good most of the time.

Incogneeto

#78
Quote from: Del. post_id=18510 time=1637103753 user_id=113Taking a long time. Not good most of the time.


If they came back immediately with a Not Guilty The Left would Scream!!

Gotta at least Look like it was a hard decision.

Free Lunch anyhow.

ghuns

#79
Quote from: Del. post_id=18510 time=1637103753 user_id=113Taking a long time. Not good most of the time.


Courthouse/Twitter rumor mill is saying one or two 'Karens' not sympatric to the kid are holdouts. Whining about what happens to Kenosha and themselves if they acquit him.

RobertELee

#80
Quote from: ghuns post_id=18513 time=1637147830 user_id=75
Quote from: Del. post_id=18510 time=1637103753 user_id=113Taking a long time. Not good most of the time.


Courthouse/Twitter rumor mill is saying one or two 'Karens' not sympatric to the kid are holdouts. Whining about what happens to Kenosha and themselves if they acquit him.


If that's the case they should be relieved of their duties. Their job is to make a decision based on the trial, not worry about the what-ifs because a bunch of whiny losers are protesting.

JParis

#81
if that kind of information is getting out of the jury room, the jury should be dismissed and the judge should declare a mistrial...

JM2C FWIW

ghuns

#82
New motion for mistrial w/prejudice was filed yesterday.

When the defense was playing the drone video in court and the judge couldn't see what they were talking about, prosecutor Fatlock said, our version of the vid is better. They proceeded to play the same vid but in HD.

The state had never turned over the HD video to the defense.

Jon@NOWHERE

#83
I don't get how the protestors both for and against Kyle are allowed that close to the courthouse.  If reports are true and they can be heard inside the courthouse, and it was reported that some of the protestors have said they are there to influence the outcome.  How is this not considered jury tampering?

ghuns

#84
Quote from: Jon@NOWHERE post_id=18518 time=1637154275 user_id=65I don't get how the protestors both for and against Kyle are allowed that close to the courthouse.  If reports are true and they can be heard inside the courthouse, and it was reported that some of the protestors have said they are there to influence the outcome.  How is this not considered jury tampering?


1st Amendment. They have a right to assemble.

While I'm kinda a 1A absolutist, I would probably support limiting access to a court house the same way we limit it at a polling place during voting.

YoDoug

#85
1st Amendment rights are not unlimited. If they are impeding someone from their right to a fair trial of a jury by their peers then there is absolutely a limit.

IMO, this is when a judge should consider a mistrial. However, it can go the other way too. The NY mobs were notorious for jury tampering and did it in hopes to get a hung jury or a mistrial.

RobertELee

#86
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Jon@NOWHERE

#87
Quote from: ghuns post_id=18519 time=1637154916 user_id=75
Quote from: Jon@NOWHERE post_id=18518 time=1637154275 user_id=65I don't get how the protestors both for and against Kyle are allowed that close to the courthouse.  If reports are true and they can be heard inside the courthouse, and it was reported that some of the protestors have said they are there to influence the outcome.  How is this not considered jury tampering?


1st Amendment. They have a right to assemble.

While I'm kinda a 1A absolutist, I would probably support limiting access to a court house the same way we limit it at a polling place during voting.


I am not saying they can't assemble, but if they have bullhorns they have to be far enough away from the courthouse that the jury cannot hear them.  I am not saying disperse the crowd I am saying remove bullhorns or move crowd back.  They can protest all they want, but they should not be allowed to interfere with a trial where someone else's possibility of losing their rights is involved.

crazy^millman

#88
Quote from: Jon@NOWHERE post_id=18523 time=1637160719 user_id=65
Quote from: ghuns post_id=18519 time=1637154916 user_id=75
Quote from: Jon@NOWHERE post_id=18518 time=1637154275 user_id=65I don't get how the protestors both for and against Kyle are allowed that close to the courthouse.  If reports are true and they can be heard inside the courthouse, and it was reported that some of the protestors have said they are there to influence the outcome.  How is this not considered jury tampering?


1st Amendment. They have a right to assemble.

While I'm kinda a 1A absolutist, I would probably support limiting access to a court house the same way we limit it at a polling place during voting.


I am not saying they can't assemble, but if they have bullhorns they have to be far enough away from the courthouse that the jury cannot hear them.  I am not saying disperse the crowd I am saying remove bullhorns or move crowd back.  They can protest all they want, but they should not be allowed to interfere with a trial where someone else's possibility of losing their rights is involved.


That is what the left is and has been doing claiming foul for actions other all the while being the worst at pushing their agenda and direction. Right is not far behind and if you dare have morals, values and can think for yourself then you just enemy number one.

gcode

#89
Doctored video???

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-trial-mayhem-courtoom-fights-over-videos-and-mistrial-as-jury-deliberates/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=a3e94027-b9bb-45c1-8007-4b6b8695322b">https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/r ... 6b8695322b">https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-trial-mayhem-courtoom-fights-over-videos-and-mistrial-as-jury-deliberates/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=a3e94027-b9bb-45c1-8007-4b6b8695322b