Computers for Mastercam use

[Tim Johnson]

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/supportassistforpcs/cp/supportassistforpcs

There's a download button on the site

[Leehound]

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on a new computer. Below is what I am buying. Any thoughts or comments on this build?

I hate the thought of setting up a new computer, but I have to do it.

00013    Xi® MTower™ PCIe Workstation (Base Configuration)    $1,129.00
01529    11th Gen Intel Core i9-11900KF                       $849.00
02448    64GB (2x32GB) DDR4-4000 SDRAM                        $529.00
04766    NVIDIA RTX A4000 16GB GDDR6                         $1,419.00
03282    2TB Solid State Drive NVMe Samsung SSD 980          $419.00
16118    Genuine Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
22443    MSI Z590-A PRO Intel Z590                           $159.00
44076    750W Gold Certified 80 Plus EVGA SuperNOVA 750     $145.00
27365    Xi® MTower™ RW TYRFING                            $29.00


________________________________________
Sales Quotation Breakdown Summary:
For complete details, please refer to the printable quote.
________________________________________
    Sub-Total    $4,697.00
    Discounts    $140.91
    After Discounts    $4,556.09
    CA Sales Tax (Preliminary)    $0.00
    CA e-Waste Recycling Fee    $0.00
    Shipping    $181.67
    Total Each    $4,737.76
    Quantity    1
    Landed Grand Total    $4,737.76

[crazy^millman]

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on a new computer. Below is what I am buying. Any thoughts or comments on this build?

I hate the thought of setting up a new computer, but I have to do it.

00013    Xi® MTower™ PCIe Workstation (Base Configuration)    $1,129.00
01529    11th Gen Intel Core i9-11900KF                       $849.00
02448    64GB (2x32GB) DDR4-4000 SDRAM                        $529.00
04766    NVIDIA RTX A4000 16GB GDDR6                         $1,419.00
03282    2TB Solid State Drive NVMe Samsung SSD 980          $419.00
16118    Genuine Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
22443    MSI Z590-A PRO Intel Z590                           $159.00
44076    750W Gold Certified 80 Plus EVGA SuperNOVA 750     $145.00
27365    Xi® MTower™ RW TYRFING                            $29.00


________________________________________
Sales Quotation Breakdown Summary:
For complete details, please refer to the printable quote.
________________________________________
    Sub-Total    $4,697.00
    Discounts    $140.91
    After Discounts    $4,556.09
    CA Sales Tax (Preliminary)    $0.00
    CA e-Waste Recycling Fee    $0.00
    Shipping    $181.67
    Total Each    $4,737.76
    Quantity    1
    Landed Grand Total    $4,737.76

Looks good I have been running 126GB of memory for a couple years now. I run a few sessions of Mastercam, Vericut, and other software at the same time and seems that extra memory helps. Not sure about cooling hopefully that case has a ton of it.

[byte]

Very nice specs LeeHound!

[gcode]

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on a new computer. Below is what I am buying. Any thoughts or comments on this build?

I hate the thought of setting up a new computer, but I have to do it.

00013    Xi® MTower™ PCIe Workstation (Base Configuration)    $1,129.00
01529    11th Gen Intel Core i9-11900KF                       $849.00
02448    64GB (2x32GB) DDR4-4000 SDRAM                        $529.00
04766    NVIDIA RTX A4000 16GB GDDR6                         $1,419.00
03282    2TB Solid State Drive NVMe Samsung SSD 980          $419.00
16118    Genuine Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
22443    MSI Z590-A PRO Intel Z590                           $159.00
44076    750W Gold Certified 80 Plus EVGA SuperNOVA 750     $145.00
27365    Xi® MTower™ RW TYRFING                            $29.00


________________________________________
Sales Quotation Breakdown Summary:
For complete details, please refer to the printable quote.
________________________________________
    Sub-Total    $4,697.00
    Discounts    $140.91
    After Discounts    $4,556.09
    CA Sales Tax (Preliminary)    $0.00
    CA e-Waste Recycling Fee    $0.00
    Shipping    $181.67
    Total Each    $4,737.76
    Quantity    1
    Landed Grand Total    $4,737.76

Xi can overclock that i9 to 5.3 ghz and still maintain the warranty
I would have them do that and add liquid cooling.

[Leehound]

There is already liquid cooling on the GPU. And I should be able to make the overclocking changes.

I saved another 2% on this build by sending them a check.

This is my second @XI computer which is 5 years old now.

[gcode]

And I should be able to make the overclocking changes

yes but if you do it, you void the warranty
if they do it the warranty stands

[Leehound]

@XI will overclock to 4.5GHz for an additional $240. Going up to 5.3 was $600, and then I would have had to change the case. So I am fine at 4.5, which is 28% boost on all cores.

Thanks for the advice!

[neurosis]

My new laptop came in this week.  It's a beast. 

I ended up purchasing it from Gentechpc but wish that I had waited and got it straight from Clevo.

This thing came with two power supplies?  What in the hell would a laptop need two power supplies for?  The power block is a brick. 

I'm super happy with it so far. 

[crazy^millman]

I am using two KLIM Cooler Vacumms on the back my laptop. It also sitting on a cooling pad that has a 170mm fan under it. That was my primary cooling to recently adding the KLIM Vacuum coolers. What a huge difference in keeping my Laptop extremely cooled down.

[Leehound]

I received my new @XI workstation earlier this week. It has taken me 3 days to get everything transferred over. Not only is it used for Mastercam, but everything related to running my business is on this one computer. A real pain in the ass to go from windows 7 to windows 10.

I saved installing Mastercam X9 for last. I downloaded it from Mastercam dot com because the usb it came on was corrupt. But you have to link your account, which I tried to do from new pc. Did not work, have to do it from old pc. I "try" and install and it crashes my new pc. The install never finishes and it wont let me uninstall or re-install only do a "repair", which did nothing to allow Mastercam to run. At this point I am like WTF!

My reseller was not able to help so I reached out to Corporate Mastercam. At first he didn't seem too interested in helping this "Non" Maintenance customer, but he does. It turns out it is important to install the latest Hasp drivers first. I think I remember reading about that on Emastercam forum but had forgotten about it. Anyway, installing the new hasp driver fixed it. Thankfully

Everything is now running as it should. A nice increase in performance going from a Quadro P2000 to the RTX A4000 16gb. This will be my last work PC purchase. Its been a pain in the ass to go to a new pc and I am glad its done.

[crazy^millman]

Anyone using Intel 2TB M2 Drives?

Link $209

I want to replace my 2 older 1TB and 256 gb backup drives and going with the Samsung 2TB ones with the pro series is another $170.

2TB 980 Pro Samsung

2TB 970 EVO Samsung

I can downgrade to the 970 EVO series to save some money, but was looking at the INTEL thinking maybe not a bad comprise. Currently 3 of the drives are Samsung 1TB M2 960 Pro, 1TB M2 970 Pro, 2TB M2 980 Pro and 256 GB M2 Dell Class 40. I have a Back up 256 GB M2 Dell Class 40 with the original OS on it locked away in a fireproof box along with the 4TB backup drive with all files on it. Not something I got the extra funds to do today, but thinking I will need to so some thing in the next few months. I am doing everything I can to make this Laptop last for 3 more years before I replace it. I have 2 KLIM Air Vaccums and 170mm Cooling pad on it. Running 4 sessions of Mastercam, Vericut, CAMPLETE, NCSIMUL, Outlook and 2 browsers at the same time it still stay nice and cool.

[gcode]

I am doing everything I can to make this Laptop last for 3 more years before I replace it.

Isn't that laptop is already several years old.
I'm thinking the pain of replacing it sooner would be offset by the increased performance of a modern machine.
I do my best to replace my personal machines every three years.
My last work machine lasted 7 years and getting a new one last summer has made a difference in my efficiency

I can downgrade to the 970 EVO series to save some money

I think this is a bad idea. The main difference between the EVO and Pro series is durability
The cost of data loss is too high to make a $100 savings a good bet

[crazy^millman]

Isn't that laptop is already several years old.
I'm thinking the pain of replacing it sooner would be offset by the increased performance of a modern machine.
I do my best to replace my personal machines every three years.
My last work machine lasted 7 years and getting a new one last summer has made a difference in my efficiency
I think this is a bad idea. The main difference between the EVO and Pro series is durability
The cost of data loss is too high to make a $100 savings a good bet

2 Years old in December and with Dell changing their customization method having to go through the Enterprise side of things to get a new one is not looking like a fun way to even think about replacing this one. The one before it is still running strong I passed it down to my daughter and it is pushing 5 years old. Yes the EVO is probably not worth the risk. I have backups and such should one fail, but the Pro's have not done me wrong the 960 is pushing about 5 years old and still going strong. Might just start with one 980 and space them out over the next year and make it easier to cover the cost.

[gcode]

2 Years old in December and with Dell changing their customization method having to go through the Enterprise side of things to get a new one is not looking like a fun way to even think about replacing this one.

Talk to these guys
Xi Computers, Mastercam page

They will build you anything you like
The are located in San Clemente
Standard warranty is 1 year parts and labor/lifetime customer support.

Boxx jerked me around on our last purchase so I though I'd try these guys out.
We saved about $600 and got 5 day delivery vs 4 weeks.