Trump on Greenland: We'll Make a Deal the Easy Way or the Hard Way

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Quote from: beej on January 20, 2026, 06:06 AMCan you give me an example when a democratic congress has put cold water on a Democratic president?

Can you show me a Democrat congress that attempted to completely hamstring the judicial branch against the sitting president the way the Republicans did in the BBB? They were willing to cede all congressional power to the Executive branch so they wouldn't have to answer for his lunacy in the mid-terms.
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

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CNCAppsJames

What some see as hamstringing the Judicial branch others see as reigning them back in from their decades of near unrestrained legislating from the bench.

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neurosis

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on January 20, 2026, 06:27 AMWhat some see as hamstringing the Judicial branch others see as reigning them back in from their decades of near unrestrained legislating from the bench.

:coffee:

And those are the people who threw away their principals while supporting the consolidation of power to the executive branch.

You can't convince me that you think the SCOTUS hasn't handed Trump an open check book to write the majority of his agenda?
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Quote from: beej on January 20, 2026, 06:06 AMCan you give me an example when a democratic congress has put cold water on a Democratic president?

Just a recent example, Biden's own cabinet could have invoked the 25th amendment to remove him because of his well established mental decline, and replaced him with another democrat but they didn't. So you really can't sit there and say one is better than the other.

Is there a Trumptard, or Republican, or hell, even a conservative, ever, who will accept responsibility for what their party or leadership does without flipping the script and throwing out some bullshit whataboutism?

neurosis

To be fair, both sides do that. But there has been an extraordinary amount of whataboutism in the last year.


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CNCAppsJames

Quote from: neurosis on January 20, 2026, 06:28 AMAnd those are the people who threw away their principals while supporting the consolidation of power to the executive branch.

You can't convince me that you think the SCOTUS hasn't handed Trump an open check book to write the majority of his agenda?
Or, the Judicial Branch is returning to it's roots of interpreting law as opposed to creating it.

As a firearms owner I have grown accustomed to legal situations taking a VERY long time to wind their ways through the system. The People's Republik of Kommieforniastan has for DECADES created an web of legislation that is KNOWN  AND ACKNOWLEDGED (just ask Reggie Sawyer-Jones ) to be unconstitutional at every level. He said on the record "We're California,  we do what we want."

So I'll tell you what the Anti-2a establishment tells us, "wait for it to wind it's way through the court."

I for one am anxious for "birthright citizenship" to be adjudicated.  I think there is a compelling case against it. Just because something is tradition, doesn't make it right.  Since 1932 and the NFA it's been the tradition to impose unconstitutional burdens on those wishing to exercise their enumerated constitutional rights.

So, welcome to the club of people doing what you perceive as wrong and seemingly getting away with it. The wheels of justice turn slowly. Buckle up.
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Quote from: TylerBeer on January 20, 2026, 05:59 AMLooking at the reality of NATO being dead before the end of year.
Nah. NATO will still be there to back up individual states (they don't call them countries) armies.
Individual "states" armies, will be there, as always, to back up the individual police forces.
That's how it always works.
Oh....BTW, "we're all on our own".... :nodding:
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neurosis

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on January 20, 2026, 06:44 AMOr, the Judicial Branch is returning to it's roots of interpreting law as opposed to creating it.

So when they rule in a way you don't like, it's activism or legislating from the bench. When they rule in a way you do like, it's returning to its roots of interpreting the law as opposed to creating it. Gotcha.


Quote from: CNCAppsJames on January 20, 2026, 06:44 AMI for one am anxious for "birthright citizenship" to be adjudicated.  I think there is a compelling case against it.

You'll probably be surprised to know that I mostly agree with you on this. I don't like the way all of this came about, but I feel that the law needs to be more clear. Some say that it is already clear enough?




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Bucky Cornstarch

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on January 20, 2026, 06:44 AMBlabity blah blah - I'm a Constitutional Scholar - blabity blah
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RAGE RAGE RAGE  :rant:  :rant: .
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Blabity blab - Kommieforniastan - blab blabity blab
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2A BABY!!!
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Blabity blah blab - bigoted rant - "birthright citizenship" - Blabity blah blab - I'm here so fuck everyone else blab - blabity blab blab
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I'll take your 14A and raise you a 2A


jstell

Quote from: CNCAppsJames on January 19, 2026, 05:16 PMIf you think Trump "controls the media" then we have VERY different definitions of what the word "control" means.
Perhaps "exerting influence" works for you?  What do you call using the FCC to force Kimmel off the air, albeit only for a handful of days because like many dumb ideas, it didn't work?
But what has been done at CBS, cancelling the Late Night show to get their merger with Paramount signed off, and forcing them to install a "friendly" in the form of Bari Weiss.  Or all the meritless lawsuits against other media.
QuoteThe settlements have come from X, ABC News, Meta, YouTube and Paramount. None of them were justified on the merits. Paramount, for example, agreed to pay the president $16 million for what he claimed was the deceptive editing of a 2024 Kamala Harris interview. The editing was a normal part of journalism. Three weeks later, the Federal Communications Commission approved an $8 billion merger with Skydance.
from the NYT article posted earlier today in a different thread (...justify the grift)  https://archive.ph/WzzXY#selection-485.0-485.407

jstell

Quote from: beej on January 20, 2026, 06:09 AMThat's a terrible way to address me.
Ignoring that, can you answer the question?
"Can you say the last time a democratic president was threatening their closest ally or actively destroying NATO?"