Emc

[neurosis]

Hang on - are you boys about to rumble again?
Shall i go get a beer and make myself comfortable?
😁

I would never rumble with him.  I've known him since long before I started hanging out on EMC. I was just ball bustin.  

[neurosis]

What control requires that?

Our old yasnac i80 did.  Not sure if it was due to the machine it was on?  It was a Kitamura Mycenter 4.  The tool changers on those things are weird.

[byte]

Hang on - are you boys about to rumble again?
Shall i go get a beer and make myself comfortable?
😁

We're all getting old and the rumbles get pretty boring when everyone breaks for a nap between rounds  

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[YoDoug]

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=19220 time=1638543867 user_id=50]

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=19212 time=1638542015 user_id=50]
Remind me again why the t1 and m6 have to be on different lines?

What control requires that?
[/quote]
Some badly set up okuma i worked with in 2012,
I figured they all were like that.
Those machines arent popular around these parts, mostly due to the controller not being Fanuc.
[/quote]

In older Okuma's if the T* that was being called was already pre-staged the control would alarm. On newer controls there is a parameter that overrides this. Most Okuma users have a custom macro for tool changes, often a G111 or G116 that handles all the logic for tool changes.

[Jeff]

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=19212 time=1638542015 user_id=50]
Remind me again why the t1 and m6 have to be on different lines?
[/quote]

What machine needs them to be on separate lines?
I only put them on separate lines if I'm staging a tool while the current tool cuts the part.
T call at the beginning of the path and the M6 call at the end for the next tool.

[Jeff]

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=19220 time=1638543867 user_id=50]

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=19212 time=1638542015 user_id=50]
Remind me again why the t1 and m6 have to be on different lines?

What control requires that?
[/quote]
Some badly set up okuma i worked with in 2012,
I figured they all were like that.
Those machines arent popular around these parts, mostly due to the controller not being Fanuc.
[/quote]

I've been running Okumas since the mid-90's. I don't recall them ever requiring that.  Maybe there was some kind of special macro the machine was running that wouldn't accept it?

[neurosis]

What machine needs them to be on separate lines?

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[Jeff]

What machine needs them to be on separate lines?

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[byte]

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=19220 time=1638543867 user_id=50]

What control requires that?

Some badly set up okuma i worked with in 2012,
I figured they all were like that.
Those machines arent popular around these parts, mostly due to the controller not being Fanuc.

In older Okuma's if the T* that was being called was already pre-staged the control would alarm. On newer controls there is a parameter that overrides this. Most Okuma users have a custom macro for tool changes, often a G111 or G116 that handles all the logic for tool changes.
[/quote]

Yeah, Fanuc doesn't have that problem, see, Fanuc > Okuma  

[byte]

What machine needs them to be on separate lines?

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Reported!

Ouuu, he got you son, next time bring your reading glasses!!  :w00t:

[CNCAppsJames]

[quote="Thee Byte™" post_id=19212 time=1638542015 user_id=50]Remind me again why the t1 and m6 have to be on different lines?
[/quote]
That is machine tool builder dependent. Many do not require that. Some require the M06 before the T. It just depends on how they've chosen to do ladder/PMC stuff.

One distinct advantage OSP has over FANUC, it only has to work with/for Okuma. FANUC OTOH... there are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of separate machine tool builders that use that control. All have their ideas on how stuff can/should be done. Okuma is Apple. FANUC is Android. Literally.

[thad]

It would also toolchange without a T# - Just M6 and it would change tools.
It wasn't fussy what # was in the spindle - she'd carry on....