Supreme court says release those tax returns

Started by Smit, November 22, 2022, 03:05 PM

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Jim at Gentex

Well since we're poking around in the finances of former Presidents without warrants or probable cause, I think the next item on the agenda should be a complete forensic audit of the Clinton Foundation, RIGHT???

Wake up people.
The IRS has every one of Trump's tax returns going back through the decades.

If there was anything amiss, and I mean ANYTHING, it would have been leaked a long time ago and used against him.

Trump continues his epic-level trolling, and the left and the media continue to lap it up.  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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crazy^millman

Quote from: RobertELee on November 22, 2022, 03:42 PMSays who? The dozens of accountants he has working for him to make sure everything is legal and ensure he pays the least? The almost yearly audits he gets?

You really think a billionaire who owns multiple businesses is ignored by the IRS? And if all you care about is how much he paid in to taxes you have zero clue how running a business works.

Exactly run your (Not directed at you Robert) own business and see how much fun it is.

RobertELee

Quote from: crazy^millman on November 23, 2022, 06:24 AMExactly run your (Not directed at you Robert) own business and see how much fun it is.

Funny thing is I am running my own business and learning more and more of the tax things myself. There are very easy ways to make your yearly taxes paid zero. However it costs a lot of money to do that, such as reinvesting in your business by purchasing new equipment. Many people don't realize that you can pay off your business taxes simply by upgrading. Why throw your money away to .gov who will just piss it away, and with nothing for you to show for it, when you can build your business?

There are thousands of laws(loopholes) everyone can use to ease their tax burden, and being mad at someone that didnt make those laws and is legally using them to lower their taxes is just asinine.

In simple words for even a democrat to understand; don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Quote from: RobertELee on November 23, 2022, 09:29 AMFunny thing is I am running my own business and learning more and more of the tax things myself. There are very easy ways to make your yearly taxes paid zero. However it costs a lot of money to do that, such as reinvesting in your business by purchasing new equipment. Many people don't realize that you can pay off your business taxes simply by upgrading. Why throw your money away to .gov who will just piss it away, and with nothing for you to show for it, when you can build your business?

There are thousands of laws(loopholes) everyone can use to ease their tax burden, and being mad at someone that didnt make those laws and is legally using them to lower their taxes is just asinine.

In simple words for even a democrat to understand; don't hate the player, hate the game.

I'm gonna have to see your tax forms Mister.
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Quote from: RobertELee on November 23, 2022, 09:29 AMFunny thing is I am running my own business and learning more and more of the tax things myself. There are very easy ways to make your yearly taxes paid zero. However it costs a lot of money to do that, such as reinvesting in your business by purchasing new equipment. Many people don't realize that you can pay off your business taxes simply by upgrading. Why throw your money away to .gov who will just piss it away, and with nothing for you to show for it, when you can build your business?

There are thousands of laws(loopholes) everyone can use to ease their tax burden, and being mad at someone that didnt make those laws and is legally using them to lower their taxes is just asinine.

In simple words for even a democrat to understand; don't hate the player, hate the game.

yup.. I spent 20 years building a small job shop. I owned 49% and was supposed to get 49% of the profits.
They way the taxes were done there were never any profits and I finally realized I was being had and there
never would be any profits. I had a serious talk with my partner and gave him a couple of years
to make things right. It became clear nothing was going to change so I sold my 49% and moved on.
The business did not survive.

RobertELee

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CNCAppsJames

I ran my own business for a couple years. The education I received at the hands of a few lawyers and accountants was SO eye opening.

I became a MUCH better employee after that experience. I never once questioned why the company was spending X, Y, or Z when on the outside it looks like a bad decision. If one looks at purchases/leases/investments/expenditures through the lens of it's tax implications, there's a whole other game that 97% of the american public has no clue about. Of course when Warren Buffet proclaims his secretary pays more taxes than he does he's being a little more than disingenuous. Then again, he probably feels a strong need to crank up the outrage meter so the idiot sheep get their pampers in a bunch for laughs.
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Jeff

Quote from: Incogneeto on November 22, 2022, 04:22 PMThey have No right to claim an investigation without any proof of Malfeasance....Probable Cause.

ANYTHING to keep dragging his name thru the mud!
He should sue every single fucking one of them for libel and/or slander.
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crazy^millman

Notice Smit became absent from the thread when reality stepped up to the plate. We are considered bigots and hate filled for suggesting that runnign your own business and demanding proof of wrong doing as required by law should be the method in which things are done. I am the crazy person along with the rest of you thinking proof of wrong doing where as and the rest of the world is sane for thinking demanding his tax returns is normal without proof of wrong doing.

YoDoug

Two thoughts on this;

First, the IRS is the agency tasked at reviewing tax returns and referring criminal actions for prosecution. You can ba assured if they found something in Trump's taxes that was criminal they would pursue it, or at the least leak it to the press. None of that has happened. This is just another smear tactic. They will find something in his taxes they can misrepresent and spin to keep their dumbsmit emotionally lead followers riled up.

Second, the left loves to claim how dumb Trump is. There are literally hundreds of doctors, psychiatrists, etc. that have written articles/blogs/posts about how low IQ Trump is. Yet for all of their attempts, the entire left media, politicians, etc. can't seem to make any of these supposed illegal atrocities stick. You then have to wonder, is it just that it is all made up to keep the ignorant left voters angry, or is it that the collective IQ of the left is even lower than that of Trump.
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Smit

The main thing I thought was humorous was Trump keeps running back to the Supreme court because to my mind he thinks they're going to support him out of loyalty. After all, he did pretty much turn the supreme court into a Republican institution. But they slapped him down. :)

A secondary thing is it's humorous seeing all the Trump cultists jumping to his defense and whining about how they're persecuting him without cause. He's an honest businessman, just like them.  :lol:

Apparently there are a whole lot of courts, including the supreme court, who disagree with you. Since Trump refused to submit his tax returns for examination even though every other president has done it since Nixon and he also refused to remove himself from his business holdings I think it's understandable people want to see if he used the office of President to enrich himself.

Of course most of you guys don't give a tiny shit about that. You're gonna defend your orange God because that's what you're programmed to do.

It's also kinda humorous how people wanna whine about "smearing" Trumps name while also whining on about Hunter Biden's laptop.  :lol:

neurosis

Quote from: YoDoug on November 25, 2022, 06:31 AMYou then have to wonder, is it just that it is all made up to keep the ignorant left voters angry, or is it that the collective IQ of the left is even lower than that of Trump.

My thought is that you don't need articles and books telling you how ignorant Trumps is.

When he talks he is about as articulate as my girlfriends 5 year old grandson.  So I have to think that means one of two things.  Either he's as ignorant as he sounds, or he's pandering to an ignorant audience. 

To me, Trump is nothing more than a showman who's learned how to cover his ass. The covering his ass part he probably learned from his Father.
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YoDoug

Quote from: neurosis on November 25, 2022, 07:05 AMMy thought is that you don't need articles and books telling you how ignorant Trumps is.

When he talks he is about as articulate as my girlfriends 5 year old grandson.  So I have to think that means one of two things.  Either he's as ignorant as he sounds, or he's pandering to an ignorant audience. 

To me, Trump is nothing more than a showman who's learned how to cover his ass. The covering his ass part he probably learned from his Father.

OK, but then shouldn't the left, the party of intellectuals as they claim to be) be able to find something that can stick. It has been endless failed attempts to get Trump on something. Are you really saying that a low IQ dimwit like Trump is smarter at covering his tracks than the entire media, DC swamp agencies, and politicians are? When the R's used to go after the Clintons, the Clintons had cover help from just about the entire media, swamp agencies, and left politicians. Heck even half of the R politicians would help bring down Trump if they could, yet they just can't seem to make it happen. The truth is, it is not about whether or not a supposed illegal action happened, it's about the perception they can spin.
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Incogneeto

Quote from: neurosis on November 25, 2022, 07:05 AMMy thought is It's two hours earlier here, I should have at least 3 cups of coffee before I post.


I'm not gonna pick on him.But my gf's grandson doesn't speak well.



Either he's as ignorant as he sounds, or he's pandering to an ignorant audience.

Trump has had the MSM and Liberals jumping for 6 yes 6 years. 

To me, Trump is nothing more than a showman who's learned how to cover his ass.

I had heard he had employees smashing cell phones with hammers and a full squad deleting 30,000 e-mails.


 The covering his ass part he probably learned from his Father.


Best advice My Old man gave me was "CYA" ;)




Fixed.. ;D


Sooo what are they looking for in his returns??

It's not like he abandoned them at some computer repair shop?? 8)



P.S. Good morning Neuro!! :)
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Quote from: Smit on November 25, 2022, 07:02 AMThe main thing I thought was humorous was Trump keeps running back to the Supreme court because to my mind he thinks they're going to support him out of loyalty. After all, he did pretty much turn the supreme court into a Republican institution. But they slapped him down. :)

I Like they slapped him down means the balance of the Justice system is doing its job. The Left Leaning people should then shut up about it being republican stacked, but no they want to make it 500 or 1000 or 1,000,000 justices until they can get the law to lean left when it shouldn't lean either direction.

Quote from: Smit on November 25, 2022, 07:02 AMA secondary thing is it's humorous seeing all the Trump cultists jumping to his defense and whining about how they're persecuting him without cause. He's an honest businessman, just like them.  :lol:

Honest and within the law are two completely different things here. Just because many of us choose to be honest and legal doesn't mean we think others are doing the same thing. There you go again spinning the lies to suit your narrative to be the hate filled person you don't realize you are. Standing on the side of justice ensuring all are treated equally should be the most important take away. Not a right or left side. IE in your hate method calling someone a Republican.

Quote from: Smit on November 25, 2022, 07:02 AMApparently there are a whole lot of courts, including the supreme court, who disagree with you. Since Trump refused to submit his tax returns for examination even though every other president has done it since Nixon and he also refused to remove himself from his business holdings I think it's understandable people want to see if he used the office of President to enrich himself.

So you have personally seen all of those tax returns and verified them yourself? Or did you read about them somewhere? You had to so then you are just parroting a narrative you want to support your idea that bypasses the idea of the judicial system of this country.

Quote from: Smit on November 25, 2022, 07:02 AMOf course most of you guys don't give a tiny shit about that. You're gonna defend your orange God because that's what you're programmed to do.

More of your hating to hate what else is new.  :shrug:  :shrug:

Quote from: Smit on November 25, 2022, 07:02 AMIt's also kinda humorous how people wanna whine about "smearing" Trumps name while also whining on about Hunter Biden's laptop.  :lol:

I think the guy is a idiot and don't care for him to be our president that is not issue with the whole thing. The issue is the nothing burgers the press keeping turning it into and ignorant people who have never walked a day in the shoes of a business owner making parroted comments about things they have no clue about.

Left me ask you think about the Laptop. If 10% of what is on it is true should Hunter go to jail or walk?

I will be waiting for the hate filled response and name calling you so love to fall back on.