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[BrianP.]

my goodness, Smit. you're replying as though there is no money in the legacy media. Yes, there is money in right wing media. that is how the market works. People see a need, the provide the need and if they can make money at it, they continue to provide the need. If they can't there was never a need in the first place. 

In the early days of Television, news rooms knew that they had a wide audience. they walked a fairly good line of providing news as a set of facts. Walter Cronkite was once considered the "Most trusted man in America." But over time, people abused that trust by realizing they had a platform that could be used to further a view point. It was subtle at first. They could just ignore a news story that made their political bias look bad and highlight ones that made their bias look good. Conservatives became suspicious of this, and people like Rush Limbaugh and Rupert Murdoch began to expose it. They both made a lot of money doing that. which made others jump in the fray. Now it has devolved into out right lies, like "mostly peaceful protests" and Russian Pee Tapes.

Today 7% of Americans say they strongly trust the media and 28% somewhat trust the media.  What is the Legacy Media's response to that? If you don't trust us, you are racist. Oh and by the way Walter Cronkite was racist. Don't believe me? listen to this debate between Matt Taibbi, Douglas Murray, Malcom Gladwell, and Michelle Goldberg. that was Malcom's argument. If you don't trust the Washington Post, you must be racist.

Keep going beej. We're still rooting for you. 😁

[Smit]

you just used, as an example, some of the most extreme that the right wing has to offer

I did. It's a good example because it's used commonly here by some of our far right members.

I didn't paint anything though.

[Del.]

Keep going beej. We're still rooting for you. 😁

He can do it.

[beej]

Ashton Kutcher has a twin brother. the difference between them is incredible. His brother was born with a lot of health problems. One thing after another. the guilt that Ashton had for having such an incredible life compared to his twin brother has caused a distance in their relationship.

 One day his brother told him, "When you feel sorry for me, it makes me less."

that is profound! It's important not to learn the wrong lesson there, but encouragement rather than sympathy has a lot of value.  It applies to suffering people of all stripes.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/ashton-kutcher-twin-brother-open-up-jealousy-driving-them-apart

[BrianP.]

He can do it.

IDK Dell kinda like....


😁

[YoDoug]

that is profound! It's important not to learn the wrong lesson there, but encouragement rather than sympathy has a lot of value.  It applies to suffering people of all stripes.

So you are saying we should encourage Smit to pull his head out of his a$$ rather than feel sorry for him. 

[Smit]

Right wing media is really good at identifying where the next battle will be fought.

You know Beej, I know I'm wasting my time here but you really did put your finger on it with this comment, except for using the word "identifying."

You seem to think they have some kind of wonderful knack for identifying "the next battle?"

No. Right wing media finds something to push to their customers, then as it's amplified across the right wing media it inspires Republican rage and it becomes "the next battle."

They are creating the next battle, not identifying it. The more of that they feed their consumers the more the consumers want.

Very lucrative.

You're so close to seeing that but just not ready to recognize it for some reason.

Give it some thought...

[beej]

You know Beej, I know I'm wasting my time here but you really did put your finger on it with this comment, except for using the word "identifying."

You seem to think they have some kind of wonderful knack for identifying "the next battle?"

No. Right wing media finds something to push to their customers, then as it's amplified across the right wing media it inspires Republican rage and it becomes "the next battle."

They are creating the next battle, not identifying it. The more of that they feed their consumers the more the consumers want.

Very lucrative.

You're so close to seeing that but just not ready to recognize it for some reason.

Give it some thought...

I have given it quite a bit of thought. I think right wing media amplified AOC. In an attempt to say, look how dumb democrats. In doing so, they actually gave her a platform. BTW mainstream media did the same thing with Trump.

But I don't really see how the right wing media does that with "Issues".  could you give me an example of what you are talking about? I could give you countless examples of how the mainstream media does it.

[Matthew Hajicek]

The far right didn't decide that the country needs, a sexual revolution, abortion, gay marriage, trans rights, welfare, social security, govt provided health insurance. Those were all things that the left wanted and the right conceded on.

You seem to think that paints the right in a good light; it does not.

You left out minority rights and woman's rights.  The far right would have been happy if only straight, white, Christian land-owning males had rights, and society had no safety net whatsoever.  Everyone else could just go die in a ditch and decrease the surplus population.

As far as abortion goes, it wasn't even an issue until the far right evangelical Christians decided it would make a good divisive issue and started raising a fuss about it.  Benjamin Franklin gave instructions on at-home abortions in a book in the 1700s.

[beej]

You left out minority rights and woman's rights.  The far right would have been happy if only straight, white, Christian land-owning males had rights, and society had no safety net whatsoever.  Everyone else could just go die in a ditch and decrease the surplus population.

Historical revisionism...most of the Germans who came to this country were both conservative and anti-slavery. Woodrow Wilson was very progressive and racist. Calvin Coolidge conservative and supported women's rights and native american rights. should I go on....

As far as abortion goes, it wasn't even an issue until the far right evangelical Christians decided it would make a good divisive issue and started raising a fuss about it.  Benjamin Franklin gave instructions on at-home abortions in a book in the 1700s.

ypu've brought this up several times. you miss the most obvious things, sometimes. When Franklin wrote, using the term "suppression of the courses" was he speaking in code? suppression of the courses was a term for all kinds of female maladies. But in that writing he specifically made mention of unmarried ladies. So why not just call it for what it was, Abortion? Was abortion taboo? Or maybe he wasn't talking about Abortion at all, maybe he was in fact referring to women who do not have periods and suffer from it.

My Daughter in law, suffers from not having periods. She's never been pregnant, and she has a period once or twice a year. and you would think that would just be a big relief, but not having a period causes her a lot of other pain, cramping, and hormonal imbalances. She wishes she could just have her regular period and be done with it in a week rather than deal with it all month long. But of course, Franklin couldn't have been referring to that because Slate and NPR said it was about abortion.

But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it was about abortion, but abortion at the time was so taboo, you could only mention it in some kind of passive code so as not to cause a "stir." which would still send you right back to wrong on this subject.

[beej]

You know Beej, I know I'm wasting my time here but you really did put your finger on it with this comment, except for using the word "identifying."

You seem to think they have some kind of wonderful knack for identifying "the next battle?"

No. Right wing media finds something to push to their customers, then as it's amplified across the right wing media it inspires Republican rage and it becomes "the next battle."

They are creating the next battle, not identifying it. The more of that they feed their consumers the more the consumers want.

Very lucrative.

You're so close to seeing that but just not ready to recognize it for some reason.

Give it some thought...

American Girl Doll company has now published a "Smart Girls Guide" for transitioning to become a boy. I heard about it on right wing sites. No mainstream media sites are talking about it. Do you think that means that it's not true? If it is true, why aren't the mainstream media sites bringing it up. Is it because they are trying to convince us that nobody is actually trying to indoctrinate our kids?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/geniuses-american-girl-push-transitioning-christmas-because-being-girl-smart

News that the American Girl franchise has a "Smart Girls' Guide" for avoiding caring adults and leaving girlhood behind permanently has Christmas-shopping parents like myself confused. At a time of economic severity for many families, just what would make moms and dads put down hard-earned money for an expensive and girly product made by a company that wants girls to know they might not be good enough as they are?

According to Fox News, the company's latest book, titled "A Smart Girl's Guide: Body Image," "is marketed to girls ages 3 to 12 [and] encourages children to talk with a doctor if they are questioning their gender identity." 

[neurosis]

Is it because they are trying to convince us that nobody is actually trying to indoctrinate our kids?

My first question would be, what 3 - 12 year olds are going in to a store and buying this book?  I would assume that the parents would be purchasing it for their kids?

Puberty blockers is a whole other subject. Anyone pushing puberty blockers on young children is at best, uninformed about them and their potential side effects.

I listen to a podcast done by a local lesbian reporter Katie Herzog, and her cohort Jesse Singal, who do extensive research on transitioning, de-transitioning, puberty blockers, gender dysphoria depression, etc.  It's amazing the amount of misinformation is being pushed on the subject.

[beej]

My first question would be, what 3 - 12 year olds are going in to a store and buying this book?  I would assume that the parents would be purchasing it for their kids?

or in the case of some friends of mine, a very pushy aunt, who disagrees with almost every belief her sister has about raising her children.

[Smit]

I heard about it on right wing sites. No mainstream media sites are talking about it.

Probably because it's not particularly news worthy would be my guess.

A quick google search shows the smart girls guide is a series of books. Staying home alone, friendship troubles, manners, money, etc. Google it yourself if you want to see more.

You asked for an example of of right wing media setting an agenda. This is a good example.

[beej]

Probably because it's not particularly news worthy would be my guess.

And so now YOU'VE hit on something. one half the country does think this is news worthy but the mainstream media is oblivious to it. And it's not because the media doesn't like to report on controversy, they DO! they just prefer to kindle the fire of left wing protestors, not right wing protestors.

That's why the news didn't find the cages that Obama built to hold refugees very interesting. but they found it VERY interesting when Trump used them. Then they found them uninteresting when Biden used cages.

They found it very interesting when they thought Nick Sandmann was in the Native American gentleman's face. Uninteresting that it was the Native American that walked up and got in Nick Sandmann's face.

Very interesting that Ivanka Trump secured clothing patents in China, uninteresting that China was paying Biden for access to his dad.

Maybe that's why there is money to be made in right wing media.  something to think about