2A will be under heavy attack

Started by JParis, January 09, 2021, 08:30 AM

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Despite the unfriendly 4 years of Donald Trump and his moves on more gun control, the tide is building is will almost certainly wash over the masses.

The margins of Democrat control are admittedly slim but they are in the majority. We have seen in the recent past their ability to herd unpopular bills through Congress. On the surface I'd say I expect every one of these bills to pass but the pragmatic side side says there will be at least a few that will be seen, even by some Dems as too much.

At this time, I full well expect another "Assault weapons" ban....this time though, I don't expect a grandfather clause. I expect registration, buybacks and possibly full confiscation attempt and having a better than even chance of passing. If and when Biden, as many expect, has to step down or gets pushed aside, Harris will be even worse.

If the Democrats push what they have already saying they were going to push, not much of this is hyperbole, they've been saying it publicly, times are going to get very dark indeed.

What happened this past week will look like a day at Disney in comparison.

All of the below have been entered as new legislation for this Congress.

QuoteThe 117th Congress has started busily filing bills. None of the text is available yet, but the bill titles are informative. This what I've found to date. All of these are in the House. As of this writing nothing directly affecting Second Amendment rights appears to have been filed in the Senate.

H.R.225 – To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to more comprehensively address the interstate transportation of firearms or ammunition.

This was filed by Republican Rep. Griffin [VA-9], so I'm hoping it's a fix for the safe passage provisions of FOPA.

H.R.194 – To require the Inspector General, Department of Justice, to submit a report to the Congress on the number of firearm transaction denials issued by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System that are referred to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives for investigation, the number of prosecutions resulting from such investigations, and the number of firearms recovered by the Bureau in cases in which such a denial was issued after the firearm was transferred.

That sounds innocuous, but one never knows.

H.R.167 – To prohibit the transfer of a firearm at a gun show by a person who is not a federally licensed firearms dealer.

Ah, the "gun show loophole" again.

H.R.135 – To require the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to report to the Congress semiannually on the number of firearms transfers resulting from the failure to complete a background check within 3 business days, and the procedures followed after it is discovered that a firearm transfer has been made to a transferee who is ineligible to receive a firearm.

Seems duplicative, what with H.R. 194.

H.R.130 – To require the safe storage of firearms and ammunition, and to require the investigation of reports of improper storage of firearms or ammunition.

The investigation requirement looks to particularly nasty, as it seems to chuck probable cause right out the window.

H.R.127 – To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.

Given the looming Dem control of House, Senate, and White House, and their proven lack of care for what people think, I strongly suspect this will pass. I wonder if they asked cops how they feel about risking life and limb to enforce it.

H.R.125 – To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide for a 7-day waiting period before a semiautomatic firearm, a silencer, armor piercing ammunition, or a large capacity ammunition magazine may be transferred.

Hey! Maybe they'll reduce the waiting period for silencers to seven days. Alas, I'm thinking this additional wait would come after the ~nine-month registration wait.

H.R.121 – To provide for the hiring of 200 additional Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents and investigators to enforce gun laws.

Joy. Like we need more kitty-stompers.

H.R.95 – To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to remove silencers from the definition of firearms, and for other purposes.

Sadly, that will never pass. That will never make it out of committee.

H.R.60 – To protect the right of law-abiding citizens to transport knives interstate, notwithstanding a patchwork of local and State prohibitions, and to repeal Federal provisions related to switchblade knives which burden citizens.

It's not guns, but it is 2A. All things considered, I'd give this a 50:50 chance.

H.R.38 – To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a State whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the State.

National reciprocity. Snowball, meet Hell.

H.R.30 – To increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking.

I'd sure like to see the text. Is Rush [D-IL-1] actually unaware that trafficking is already illegal?

Here's one that isn't specifically 2A-related, but it did catch my eye. It's from DC Rep. Norton [D-DC], so I expect it's a duplicate of her 116th Congress bill. I've included this here because I think everyone can see that admitting DC as a state would permanently lock in Democrat control of the country, with the growing threat to firearm rights:

H.R.51 – To provide for the admission of the State of Washington, D.C. into the Union.

Ms. Norton seems to be unaware that the District's status is controlled by the Constitution. Last session, it was pointless because it did not include a Constitutional amendment. This time around, it could happen since we've seen that there pretty much isn't a Constitution anymore.

I'd wish you a Happy New Year, but this feels like December 38, 2020.


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Surface

#1
There's no doubt, 2A rights will continue to be eroded. The question is, How quickly?

Biden's choice of Attorney General, Merrick Garland, does not believe the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms, so there's little hope he would be a advocate. The best hope to preserve 2A lies with the US Supreme Court. Unfortunatly, under the threat of 'court packing', it's doubtful they will be taking up many meaningful cases in the near future.

One glimmer of hope is, Meaningful change often comes from sources you might least expect. People tend to stay on guard when an opposition party is in control. It's the 'trojan horse' which is most likely to get it's nose under the tent.
"They talk of my drinking but never my thirst." — Scottish proverb

TylerBeer

#2
We'll trade you gun freedom for universal health care whady'a say

Rstewart

#3
I'm glad I lost all my old Black Guns in a bad boating accident

Zoober

#4
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2670 time=1610213911 user_id=116We'll trade you gun freedom for universal health care whady'a say


Is "we" the rat in your pocket?
You don't get a say in constitutional matters. Nor, do you get to trade our freedoms for anything. Didn't they teach you that in CCP?

Incogneeto

#5
Quote from: Zoober post_id=2687 time=1610224481 user_id=101
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2670 time=1610213911 user_id=116We'll trade you gun freedom for universal health care whady'a say


Is "we" the rat in your pocket?
You don't get a say in constitutional matters. Nor, do you get to trade our freedoms for anything. Didn't they teach you that in CCP?


THAT was a Brutal Slapdown.

But Fun to watch.

TylerBeer

#6
Quote from: Zoober post_id=2687 time=1610224481 user_id=101
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2670 time=1610213911 user_id=116We'll trade you gun freedom for universal health care whady'a say


Is "we" the rat in your pocket?
You don't get a say in constitutional matters. Nor, do you get to trade our freedoms for anything. Didn't they teach you that in CCP?


storm the capitol about it!

Incogneeto

#7
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2717 time=1610230827 user_id=116
Quote from: Zoober post_id=2687 time=1610224481 user_id=101
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2670 time=1610213911 user_id=116We'll trade you gun freedom for universal health care whady'a say


Is "we" the rat in your pocket?
You don't get a say in constitutional matters. Nor, do you get to trade our freedoms for anything. Didn't they teach you that in CCP?


storm the capitol about it!


I'm Sure Trudeau would put up a Fight. (Slappy hands)
He reminds me of Anderson Cooper with Brown Hair.
P.S. I Love Olive Garden

neurosis

#8
Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=2726 time=1610232341 user_id=72P.S. I Love Olive Garden


I can't even look at you right now.  

 :sick:
I'll go back to being a conservative, when conservatives go back to being conservative.

gcode

#9
Biden says he will defeat the NRA
https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-says-he-will-defeat-the-nra-while-in-office_3650623.html">//https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-says-he-will-defeat-the-nra-while-in-office_3650623.html

As a lifetime member of the NRA, I am triggered by Biden`s hate speech  :harhar:

TylerBeer

#10
Quote from: gcode post_id=2821 time=1610296916 user_id=60Biden says he will defeat the NRA
https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-says-he-will-defeat-the-nra-while-in-office_3650623.html">//https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-says-he-will-defeat-the-nra-while-in-office_3650623.html

As a lifetime member of the NRA, I am triggered by Biden`s hate speech  :harhar:


NRA defeating itself, might as well take credit for it.. Wayne appreciated your dedication and money. Especially your money.

TylerBeer

#11
Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=2726 time=1610232341 user_id=72
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2717 time=1610230827 user_id=116
Quote from: Zoober post_id=2687 time=1610224481 user_id=101Is "we" the rat in your pocket?
You don't get a say in constitutional matters. Nor, do you get to trade our freedoms for anything. Didn't they teach you that in CCP?


storm the capitol about it!


I'm Sure Trudeau would put up a Fight. (Slappy hands)
He reminds me of Anderson Cooper with Brown Hair.
P.S. I Love Olive Garden


Might surprise you https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/53844q/five-years-ago-today-justin-trudeau-beat-the-shit-out-of-a-senator">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.c ... -a-senator">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/53844q/five-years-ago-today-justin-trudeau-beat-the-shit-out-of-a-senator

Incogneeto

#12
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2868 time=1610317618 user_id=116
Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=2726 time=1610232341 user_id=72
Quote from: TylerBeer post_id=2717 time=1610230827 user_id=116storm the capitol about it!


I'm Sure Trudeau would put up a Fight. (Slappy hands)
He reminds me of Anderson Cooper with Brown Hair.
P.S. I Love Olive Garden


Might surprise you https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/53844q/five-years-ago-today-justin-trudeau-beat-the-shit-out-of-a-senator">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.c ... -a-senator">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/53844q/five-years-ago-today-justin-trudeau-beat-the-shit-out-of-a-senator


Uhh you should prolly Clarify it was a Canardian Senator.



That's like beaten the Hell out of a Jelly Donut.

Let's see him Fight saaaay Sarah Palin.?

I mean like Mitch Mcconnell  could make him curl up in a Ball just with words.
And Mitch Knows words.

Incogneeto

#13
Quote from: neurosis post_id=2729 time=1610232942 user_id=49
Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=2726 time=1610232341 user_id=72P.S. I Love Olive Garden


I can't even look at you right now.  

 :sick:


Just for the Girls Not the food.

Young , sling'in Pasta , even an Old Man looks good to them.


"I got some Alfredo for ya Baby"

By the way where does ST work?? LOL

DUM1

#14
Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=2880 time=1610320029 user_id=72
Quote from: neurosis post_id=2729 time=1610232942 user_id=49
Quote from: Incogneeto post_id=2726 time=1610232341 user_id=72P.S. I Love Olive Garden


I can't even look at you right now.  

 :sick:


Just for the Girls Not the food.

Young , sling'in Pasta , even an Old Man looks good to them.


"I got some Alfredo for ya Baby"

By the way where does ST work?? LOL



yes ill have the extra hand shredded cheese